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<STRONG>From:</STRONG> Karl Heinz Kremer (<A HREF="mailto:khk@khk.net?Subject=Re:%20Nikon%20Coolscan%20SCSI%20commands&In-Reply-To=&lt;20010716204802.A5017@khk.net&gt;"><EM>khk@khk.net</EM></A>)<BR>
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Take a look at vuescan. This application is used a lot among
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serious &quot;film scanners&quot; (aka professional photographers).
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IMHO the only thing missing in vuescan is the curve tool.
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<P>If you want to scan negatives, you need a library of rules to remove
<BR>
the orange mask for all sorts of films. In vuescan you select the
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brand (e.g. Kodak) and then the type of film (e.g. Gold) and then
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the emulsion revision (e.g. 6), so it's a rather sophisticated
<BR>
algorithm to remove the mask.
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<P>This is just one feature that makes or breaks a scanning application
<BR>
for slides/negatives.
<BR>
<P>You can download an evaluation version of vuescan from
<BR>
<A HREF="http://hamrick.com/vsm.html">http://hamrick.com/vsm.html</A>
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<P>There is a Windows, a Mac and a Linux version of the software.
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<P>Karl Heinz
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<P>On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:32:03AM +1000, Mick Barry wrote:
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<EM>&gt; So what sort of functionality would be required from a f/e for scanning
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<EM>&gt; negatives/slides? Any references on the web for what's required?
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<EM>&gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; mick
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<EM>&gt; <A HREF="http://www.objects.com.au">http://www.objects.com.au</A>
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<EM>&gt;
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<EM>&gt; Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
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<EM>&gt;
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<EM>&gt; &gt; <A HREF="mailto:andras@users.sourceforge.net?Subject=Re:%20Nikon%20Coolscan%20SCSI%20commands&In-Reply-To=&lt;20010716204802.A5017@khk.net&gt;">andras@users.sourceforge.net</A> said:
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;&gt; I don't think so. If proper strip film feeder functions (frame
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;&gt; selection) and decent dust removal are added to the backend, then SANE
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;&gt; will be just as good and useful as VueScan, as far as I can tell.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; VueScan does a whole pile of other things in the &quot;front&quot; end that make it
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; a far superior solution for scanning negatives. This is a bit hard to
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; separate as VueScan comes as a single program though. Things such as multiple
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; pass scans, auto croping, film loading, slide and negative gamma curves
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; and a whole pile more would be in a none existent Sane front end for
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; film scanners.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; Basically Sane needs a slide/negative front end, and I don't see one
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; in a usable state being available anytime soon. Lets face it there is
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; not even one in development. While XSane is great for a desktop scanner
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; for sheets of paper, photographs, you basic everyday reflective scanning,
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; it is entirely unsuitable for transmission scanning of negatives and slides.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; That is no reflection on XSane as the two are entirely different
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; propositions, and XSane is targeted at the more widely used reflective
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; scanning market. What is needed is a XFilmSane front end.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;&gt; In any case, there is no point giving up on the basis that there is a
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;&gt; better (commercial) alternative.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; You are of course quite right, but if it were me I would buy a copy of
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; VueScan while waiting/developing a negative/slide front end for Sane.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; At the moment if you are serious about scanning negatives and slides then
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; the only realistic option is VueScan.
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; &gt; JAB.
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