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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have to wonder at the effort spent discussing &quot;xsane as root&quot;.
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I think everybody is overlooking the point - UNIX will cheerfully
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;allow you to hang yourself any number of ways.
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Is is not likely that people who use SANE fall into two camps;
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A camp of experienced UNIX users, who are fully aware of the inherent
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dangers of being &quot;root&quot;, and are fully willing to take those risks,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And a camp of people who are not aware of the dangers, but have no
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;business or access to the root UID?
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Okay, I guess there is a third group, given the growing popularity
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of Linux, who fit both groups, because they are both using Linux
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and responsible for the administration of the machine. However, all
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of us in the &quot;experienced&quot; camp were once in this predictament at some
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;point, so I fail to see the significance or distinction.
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I would remind folks that the philosophy of Windoze is to place
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;roadblocks in the path because, well, &quot;people_who_use_Windoze_are_dumb,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and_we,_MicroSoft,_know_what_is_best_for_them&quot; is the operational
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;philosophy. I run UNIX because I can't stand being tethered to that
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;pholosophy, and I don't wish to see it creeping into UNIX software,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;no matter how well intentioned.
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If you really want to &quot;do something&quot;, then follow the UNIX model
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(which is to give us a choice) and create an /etc/saneusers file,
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;which includes a list of &quot;prohibited&quot; UIDs. This will both protect
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the &quot;inexperienced, but learning&quot; newbie and not unduly burden the
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&quot;experienced, and aware of the dangers&quot; user/admin at the same time.
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And, hopefully, everybody can declare victory, and go home happy.
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