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<title>sane-devel: Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</title>
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<h1>Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</h1>
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<b>David Mosberger-Tang</b> (<a href="mailto:David.Mosberger@acm.org"><i>David.Mosberger@acm.org</i></a>)<br>
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<i>Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:27:47 -0800</i>
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<i>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:30:29 -0500, "Michael K. Johnson" <<a href="mailto:johnsonm@redhat.com">johnsonm@redhat.com</a>> said:</i><br>
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<i> >> A GNU program should not recommend use of any non-free program,</i><br>
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<i> >> and it should not refer the user to any non-free documentation.</i><br>
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Michael> I object. Trying to encourage freely-available<br>
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Michael> documentation is one thing, trying to refuse authors the<br>
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Michael> right to refer folks to non-free documentation when<br>
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Michael> appropriate is objectionable.<br>
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I agree. Actually, the requirement is ridiculous as far as SANE is<br>
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concerned. We're lucky if we can find documentation at all and when<br>
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we find it, we want to make it widely known/available.<br>
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<i> >> GNU programs to follow them. For example, the documentation</i><br>
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<i> >> files and comments in the program should speak of Linux-based GNU</i><br>
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<i> >> systems or GNU/Linux systems, rather than calling the whole</i><br>
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<i> >> system "Linux", and should use the term "free software" rather</i><br>
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<i> >> than "open source".</i><br>
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Michael> Puh-leeze!<br>
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Michael> I know that my opinions don't mean too much, since I wasn't<br>
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Michael> the one who ported my backend to SANE, I only encouraged<br>
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Michael> it. But it's still my code, in part, and I am not<br>
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Michael> impressed by RMS's patronizing attitude here.<br>
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You opinion counts a lot. Personally, I can live with the GNU/Linux<br>
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requirement (but not with the "do not refer to non-free docs") and I<br>
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do think that being a GNU program would add visibility in the<br>
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non-Linux world. However, since nobody seems particularly<br>
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enthusiastic about making SANE part of GNU, we'll just leave things<br>
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the way they are (well, I don't mean to put words in anyones mouths so<br>
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if someone _is_ enthusiastic about it, speak up... ;-).<br>
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--david<br>
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<li> <b>Next message:</b> <a href="0190.html">Milon Firikis: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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<li> <b>Previous message:</b> <a href="0188.html">David Mosberger-Tang: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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