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<title>sane-devel: Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</title>
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<h1>Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</h1>
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<a href="mailto:becka@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de"><i>becka@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de</i></a><br>
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<i>Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:53:12 +0100 (MET)</i>
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Hi !<br>
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<i>> >Does anyone who contributed to SANE have reservations against SANE</i><br>
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<i>> >becoming a GNU program? </i><br>
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Yes I do. Due to similar reasoning like Michael.<br>
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GNU licensing is a good thing. It keeps things free. But enforcing it<br>
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is not good. We would be closing out some possible customers as well<br>
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as programmers.<br>
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As it is now, I do not see much of a problem in having SANE compatible<br>
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non-free drivers or e.g. binary only drivers, that might be the only<br>
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possibility to have drivers for some hardware at all.<br>
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Yeah - binary drivers are bad, but better than nothing.<br>
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As it is now, BSD people don't seem to have much of a problem with it,<br>
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but I know for sure they do not like GPL. And I assume we cannot make<br>
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SANE a GNU program without licensing it (L)GPL.<br>
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BTW: I am not sure if the "exceptioned GPL" as used in the backends is<br>
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legally valid, as GPL itself forbids modifications to it. Well - actually<br>
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we are not using GPL (but our own license that refers to GPL), but that <br>
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usage (referring to GPL from a modified license) might be completely invalid.<br>
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Any lawyers here ?<br>
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IMHO making the license LGPL should be safer ... for my own code, I give<br>
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permission to change to any license that MIT/X style licensed (without the<br>
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silly advertising clause) code could be sublicensed to. Including (L)GPL.<br>
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At least our standards should be open and useable freely for anyone.<br>
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<i>> >A GNU program should not recommend use of any non-free program, and it</i><br>
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<i>> >should not refer the user to any non-free documentation.</i><br>
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<i>> I object. Trying to encourage freely-available documentation is one</i><br>
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<i>> thing, trying to refuse authors the right to refer folks to non-free</i><br>
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<i>> documentation when appropriate is objectionable.</i><br>
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Yes. There are good books out there. And many of them are worth the price.<br>
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Authors must live, too.<br>
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<i>> >GNU programs to follow them. For example, the documentation files</i><br>
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<i>> >and comments in the program should speak of Linux-based GNU systems or</i><br>
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<i>> >GNU/Linux systems, rather than calling the whole system "Linux", and</i><br>
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<i>> >should use the term "free software" rather than "open source".</i><br>
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Hmmm - isn't that again overdoing it a little ?<br>
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There is a small ledge between patriotism and fanatism ... walk carefully.<br>
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CU,ANdy<br>
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<li> <b>Next message:</b> <a href="0175.html">Christian Grigis: "Re: Patch for Microtek ScanMaker X6 (microtek2 backend)"</a>
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<li> <b>In reply to:</b> <a href="0169.html">Michael K. Johnson: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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<li> <b>Next in thread:</b> <a href="0191.html">David Mosberger-Tang: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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<li> <b>Next in thread:</b> <a href="0189.html">David Mosberger-Tang: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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<li> <b>Next in thread:</b> <a href="0170.html">hank: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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<li> <b>Reply:</b> <a href="0191.html">David Mosberger-Tang: "Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman"</a>
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