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<h1>Black Widow Scanners (Was "Does anybody recognize this inquiry information ?")</h1>
<b>Dave Restall - System Administrator</b> (<a href="mailto:dave@restall.net"><i>dave@restall.net</i></a>)<br>
<i>Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:17:39 GMT</i>
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Hi,<br>
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:16:51 +0200, Bernd did scribe :-<br>
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<i>&gt; some weeks ago someone asked, whether his "Black Widow" scanner is</i><br>
<i>&gt; supported by sane, and I suggested to try it with one of the microtek</i><br>
<i>&gt; backends, because it was mentioned, that this device had an "empty"</i><br>
<i>&gt; vendor string in its inquiry information.</i><br>
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large snip etc...<br>
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Black Widow are rebadged PIE kit (see www.scanace.com) I have recently<br>
been through the mill with them and have received the SCSI control<br>
information for the engine. Unfortunately, I had to sign an NDA for the<br>
information, however I CAN disclose the source that I produce. The NDA<br>
specifically allows this but prevents me from disclosing the actual<br>
technical reference (I did point out that the source code when released<br>
would be a pretty good form of "documentation" for the internal workings<br>
of the scanner but they didn't seem bothered about this.)<br>
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In the last few days I have started working on the back end, but it will<br>
be some time before I'm ready to release anything, simply because of time<br>
constraints and work load. I started looking for the info in February<br>
1998 and didn't get the specs until September 1998. In February I had<br>
a lot more spare time than I do now.<br>
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I'm hoping to release an early version of the backend before 1999, but<br>
it is too early and life is too chaotic at the moment to be any more<br>
specific than that (I could always go and work for M$ and say 1999 but<br>
really mean 2001 ;-))<br>
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<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; But there are also some things, that are unusual for Microtek scanners.</i><br>
<i>&gt;</i><br>
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I started the work by looking at all the scanner backends that come<br>
supplied with sane-0.74 and can confirm that the PIE kit doesn't match<br>
any of them :-( Believe me I have no intention of reinventing the<br>
wheel. To date this is pretty much all that I have done, I will keep<br>
the group informed as I progress. Apart from Black Widow, I do not know<br>
if they produce scanners for any other manufacturers. I will document<br>
the source code with lots of comments when I release it so that it can<br>
be used to check for similarities.<br>
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If somebody on the list feels they can do the job any quicker then<br>
please let me know, the contact details for PIE are below, they will<br>
send anybody the details once they have a signed NDA in their posession.<br>
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For further details see :-<br>
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<a href="http://www.scanace.com">http://www.scanace.com</a><br>
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or email :-<br>
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<a href="mailto:support@scanace.com">support@scanace.com</a><br>
<a href="mailto:pascal@scanace.com">pascal@scanace.com</a><br>
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Pascal has been my main contact at PIE and has been extremely helpful<br>
and instrumental in getting the company to release the information so<br>
please don't give him any grief.<br>
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<i>&gt; - The response type code is 0x01 instead of 0x02, which, according to</i><br>
<i>&gt; my understanding of the SCSI-2 spec, means, that it is some kind</i><br>
<i>&gt; of pre-SCSI-2 standard (CCS). I don't know, if a backend should take</i><br>
<i>&gt; care of this.</i><br>
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The inquiry result doesn't seem to follow the spec, the spec does say<br>
0x02 for the response code, could you have transcribed the data<br>
incorrectly ?<br>
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