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<title>sane-devel: Re :- PIE (SCANACE) won't release technical info</title>
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<h1>Re :- PIE (SCANACE) won't release technical info</h1>
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<b>Dave Restall - System Administrator</b> (<a href="mailto:dave@restall.net"><i>dave@restall.net</i></a>)<br>
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<i>Sun, 6 Sep 1998 19:16:52 GMT</i>
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Hi,<br>
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Following my earlier posting of 24th July 1998 (mail/sane/980724.tx) :-<br>
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<i>> I received the following today from PIE. It seems that after all my</i><br>
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<i>> questions and emails they have decided that they don't want to release</i><br>
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<i>> the technical documentation for their Scanace II series of scanners to</i><br>
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<i>> me either with or without an NDA.</i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> > It had been very difficult to get the managment to accept your request last</i><br>
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<i>> > time.</i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > Following your last mail that I transmitted to the persons concermed, the</i><br>
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<i>> > decision to release informations to the public has be reconsidered. The</i><br>
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<i>> > outcome is that there are more risk to to that than any gains we could get.</i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > So the position now is not to release the informations you request.</i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > Sorry. I will let you know if there is a change in the policy.</i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> Could the KOTL please update the site to indicate that PIE will not be</i><br>
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<i>> supported. I do not want other people to go out and buy PIE products</i><br>
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<i>> only to find that they have no SANE support.</i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> If PIE reconsider and do release the information, I will keep you</i><br>
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<i>> informed, however it looks extremely unlikely at the moment.</i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> It seems such a pity to have been corresponding with them for over four</i><br>
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<i>> months to be turned down at the final hurdle.</i><br>
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I ended up entering into a more lengthy dialogue with PIE and they did<br>
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eventually agree to my suggestions on the NDA and sent me one. I have<br>
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now signed the NDA and received the technical details, so can the KOTL<br>
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now update the information held to indicate that a backend is under<br>
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development (though don't hold your breath for a quick release due to a<br>
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change in my personal circumstances).<br>
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To all the other developers, now that I am in possession of the data, I<br>
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would like to start somewhere and I would appreciate some guidance,<br>
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especially as some of this is new ground to me.<br>
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More specifically :-<br>
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1) Are there any stubs available that I just fill in the relevant parts<br>
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of to make the driver work or do I have to start the whole thing from<br>
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scratch ?<br>
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2) Now I have the spec, what do I do next ? Here I'm concerned that I<br>
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may be reinventing the wheel, i.e. the scanace kit may be very close<br>
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to an already developed driver, with the NDA I can't say "Does this<br>
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look familiar ?" I have to compare with every driver to see what is<br>
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available, this will probably be longer than starting from 0.<br>
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The C isn't a problem, I understand the API but I would appreciate some<br>
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discussion on the various development techniques used, e.g. "I tried<br>
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using SCSI setting XYZ and had major problems" or "I Rebooted the machine<br>
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and Scanner before EVERY test" etc. As much help as possible would be<br>
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appreciated - simply because the time I can devote to this is now VERY<br>
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limited so it must be as smooth as possible.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Dave Restall<br>
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