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<h1>Re: Windows port</h1>
<b>Milon Firikis</b> (<a href="mailto:milonf@ariadne-t.gr"><i>milonf@ariadne-t.gr</i></a>)<br>
<i>Mon, 31 Aug 1998 02:05:39 +0300</i>
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Ian Grant wrote:<br>
<i>&gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; Rather than port SANE to Windows, couldn't someone write a TWAIN driver</i><br>
<i>&gt; for Windows that talks to saned? This would allow people to use their free</i><br>
<i>&gt; Windows OCR s/w etc that comes with the scanner, provided they have a</i><br>
<i>&gt; Windows box on their network. It would also enable their Windows machines</i><br>
<i>&gt; to scan from any scanner on their network.</i><br>
<i>&gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; Ian</i><br>
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The above post reflects my opinions almost 100 percent.<br>
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Some spots other people missed.<br>
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* I don't care if somebody wants to port anything to anywhere since he<br>
is doing the job and not me.<br>
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* Porting issues.<br>
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SCSI<br>
----<br>
SANE uses a lot the generic SCSI interface. If you miss this you have to<br>
do one of the followings:<br>
a) write a generic SCSI driver (with UNIX semantics) for windows<br>
systems. (ala solaris)<br>
which means that<br>
i) you introduce new instabilities to the system.<br>
ii) you have to maintain different drivers for various Windows<br>
versions.<br>
b) implement the sane_scsi_* commands in sane_scsi.c The place is<br>
already #ifdefed a lot, so some windows #ifdefs won't heart so much.<br>
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INTERFACE<br>
---------<br>
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Get prepared to code a lot of networking stuff since GTK does not have a<br>
native win32 port so you can't use xscanimage to scan, though plain<br>
scanimage would do it fine I guess. Most of that code should be the<br>
TWAIN interface that it is so badly wanted from most of us, in order to<br>
get working Windows applications scanning. While you are there you could<br>
also code the net middleware that Ian Grant is talking about.<br>
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UNIXisms<br>
--------<br>
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Some (most) of the SANE backends (drivers) are using pipe() and fork()<br>
in order to use asynchronous I/O. I have already stated that I am<br>
against such UNIXisms in a backend's code, but since I can't code<br>
something better I am keeping my mouth shut. The guy that he is<br>
maintaining the OS/2 port of the SANE had an interesting idea about some<br>
platform independent threading. I certainly believe that a Windows Port<br>
is a good thing because it will address to these matters in a (I hope)<br>
platform independent way, at least as much as sane_scsi.c is.<br>
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It is also plausible to use the cygnus solution and leave the fork()<br>
pipe() and other unix stuff as it is. It is ought to work since these<br>
guys at cygnus have ported more difficult stuff than SANE which I must<br>
say is almost ANSI compatible.<br>
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All in all:<br>
I believe that a windows port will be a good thing for SANE, and that it<br>
is also feasible for somebody to do it in a non infinite period of time.<br>
Other than the difficulties I already mentioned, I don't think there<br>
are any other obstacles in the way to a windows port. Am I missing<br>
anything?<br>
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Milon Firikis<br>
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