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<title>sane-devel: Re: Scanace NDA for your perusal.</title>
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<h1>Re: Scanace NDA for your perusal.</h1>
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<b>Rogier Wolff</b> (<a href="mailto:R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl"><i>R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl</i></a>)<br>
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<i>Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:18:18 +0200 (MET DST)</i>
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Hugo van der Kooij wrote:<br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> On Sun, 7 Jun 1998, Rogier Wolff wrote:</i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> > Hugo van der Kooij wrote:</i><br>
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<i>> > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > On Sat, 6 Jun 1998, Dave Restall - System Administrator wrote:</i><br>
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<i>> > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > > Hi,</i><br>
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<i>> > > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > > Attached is the NDA in PDF format. Apart from it having a few minor</i><br>
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<i>> > > > problems in the translation to English, it seems ok. I have a few</i><br>
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<i>> > > > reservations about one of the phrases :-</i><br>
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<i>> > > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > > Paragraph 2 : "...Confidant will not create new or derivative works, or</i><br>
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<i>> > > > manufacture on the basis of the PIE information"</i><br>
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<i>> > > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > > Isn't the driver a "derivative work" ?</i><br>
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<i>> > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > YES. In the sense that you 'manufacture' a driver based on the PIE</i><br>
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<i>> > > information. The best source for this is still their legal department.</i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > Hugo, (and Dave) read the NDA. This clause is meant to prevent the</i><br>
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<i>> > information from spreading:</i><br>
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<i>> > </i><br>
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<i>> > You claim to need the information for THIS, and then start also using</i><br>
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<i>> > it for THAT. </i><br>
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<i>> </i><br>
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<i>> Now you lost me. I mentioned two different things in two sentences. And</i><br>
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<i>> you make it sound like I was making one single statement.</i><br>
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Ok. Am I misinterpreting your remark. I read:<br>
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<i>> > > > Isn't the driver a "derivative work" ?</i><br>
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<i>> > > </i><br>
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<i>> > > YES. </i><br>
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However if you read the NDA, the paragraph says something about<br>
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derivative work, defining that as "not what we agreed on at the<br>
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beginning".<br>
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Thus the SANE driver is NOT derivative work, because it is the primary<br>
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reason for granting the NDA.<br>
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Let me try to make myself clear again. <br>
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They want to prevent you from playing mean on them (you SAY that you<br>
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want to develop a SANE driver, while in fact you want to do something<br>
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completely different). Therefore they state in that paragraph 2, that<br>
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you're not allowed to do anything else with the information than<br>
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develop what you said you'd be doing.<br>
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<i>> Furthermore I stated in a previous message that it was my impression</i><br>
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<i>> their prime objective was to keep their engineering secrets away</i><br>
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<i>> from the compitition. But as Dave still seemed not sure about this I</i><br>
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<i>> advised thim to put the questions to PIE and let them simplify</i><br>
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<i>> things for him.</i><br>
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I think they want to know who has access to their documents, and they<br>
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want to be able to send updates to all people that have them. (Not that<br>
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that will ever happen.... :-)<br>
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Roger.<br>
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