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<title>sane-devel: Re: Minolta Reply (was:Public Relation Department (Ref. No. CR-3255 V)</title>
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<h1>Re: Minolta Reply (was:Public Relation Department (Ref. No. CR-3255 V)</h1>
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<b>Mathias Koerber</b> (<a href="mailto:mathias@koerber.org"><i>mathias@koerber.org</i></a>)<br>
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<i>Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:42:31 +0800 (SGT)</i>
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This sounds good.<br>
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I propose if we have documents from the manufacturer that<br>
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support our assessment of their attitude (like the email from Minolta),<br>
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we should also put them up behind a hyperlink...<br>
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(that also should include all efforts to solicit the material,<br>
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like faxes email in full text. That would help explain what efforts<br>
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have been made to obtain the information..)<br>
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It would further be helpful toscan in and publish any documentation<br>
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for the scanners, *IFF* the manufacturer gives their OK in writing.<br>
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I certainly am for putting the minolta letter up on that page,<br>
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along with my requests..<br>
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cheers<br>
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On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Hugo van der Kooij wrote:<br>
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<i>| Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:24:15 +0200 (MET DST)</i><br>
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<i>| From: Hugo van der Kooij <<a href="mailto:hvdkooij@caiw.nl">hvdkooij@caiw.nl</a>></i><br>
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<i>| Reply-To: <a href="mailto:sane-devel@mostang.com">sane-devel@mostang.com</a></i><br>
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<i>| To: <a href="mailto:sane-devel@mostang.com">sane-devel@mostang.com</a></i><br>
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<i>| Subject: Re: Minolta Reply (was:Public Relation Department (Ref. No. CR-3255 V)</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, David Mosberger-Tang wrote:</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| > >>>>> On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:42:14 +0200, "Dr. Andreas Bolsch" <<a href="mailto:a.bolsch@ic.ac.uk">a.bolsch@ic.ac.uk</a>> said:</i><br>
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<i>| > </i><br>
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<i>| > Andreas> Of course, it a good idea to quote the company's policy.</i><br>
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<i>| > Andreas> But be careful not to ask for boycott as this might lead to</i><br>
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<i>| > Andreas> prosecution. Some companies are very narrow-minded. Just</i><br>
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<i>| > Andreas> state the facts explicitly.</i><br>
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<i>| > </i><br>
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<i>| > I'd be happy to host a web page describing the open source attitude of</i><br>
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<i>| > various (scanner) companies. Maybe it could include a ranking and</i><br>
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<i>| > supporting information such as the letter from Minolta. The highest</i><br>
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<i>| > ranked companies would be equivalent to "recommended buy" whereas the</i><br>
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<i>| > low ranked companies would be equivalent to "stay away".</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| > As long as we provide factual information, there is nothing wrong with</i><br>
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<i>| > doing this. And hopefully it will increase the pressure on companies</i><br>
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<i>| > that so far refuse to give out specs. Anyone interested in putting</i><br>
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<i>| > together such a page? I'd be happy to write a section on our</i><br>
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<i>| > experience with Mustek, but don't have time to organize the whole</i><br>
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<i>| > effort.</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| I can make an example and post it here. But We need to specify what kind</i><br>
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<i>| of information should be included.</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| Perhaps a table of tested scanners like:</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| Mustek 600SP</i><br>
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<i>| 6000 (Only SCSI version)</i><br>
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<i>| HP 5p (not tested with supplied card)</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| And a table of hardware manufacturers like:</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| Mustek Supplied full set of manuals without restrictions</i><br>
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<i>| HP Gave little information</i><br>
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<i>| XXX Refused to supply programming details</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| Or was somethings else intended?</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| Hugo.</i><br>
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<i>| </i><br>
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<i>| +------------------------+------------------------------+</i><br>
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<i>| | Hugo van der Kooij | <a href="mailto:Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl">Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl</a> |</i><br>
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