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From: Steve Ruiz <steveruizok@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 11:51:22 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] Replace Atom.value with Atom.get() (#2189)
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This PR replaces the `.value` getter for the atom with `.get()`

### Change Type

- [x] `major` — Breaking change

---------

Co-authored-by: David Sheldrick <d.j.sheldrick@gmail.com>
---
 .husky/pre-commit                             |   1 +
 .../e2e/tests/export-snapshots.spec.ts        | 464 +++++++++---------
 ...ts-pointer-down-1-Mobile-Chrome-darwin.png | Bin 0 -> 2126 bytes
 ...ents-pointer-up-1-Mobile-Chrome-darwin.png | Bin 0 -> 3291 bytes
 ...er-events-pointer-up-1-chromium-darwin.png | Bin 0 -> 2126 bytes
 apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-focus.spec.ts    |   6 +-
 .../CustomUiExample/CustomUiExample.tsx       |   6 +-
 packages/editor/api-report.md                 |  14 +
 packages/editor/api/api.json                  | 240 ++++++++-
 packages/editor/src/lib/TldrawEditor.tsx      |   4 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/components/Canvas.tsx |  44 +-
 .../src/lib/components/LiveCollaborators.tsx  |   4 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/components/Shape.tsx  |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/config/TLSessionStateSnapshot.ts  |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/config/TLUserPreferences.ts       |   6 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/editor/Editor.ts      | 254 ++++++----
 .../editor/derivations/arrowBindingsIndex.ts  |   2 +-
 .../editor/derivations/parentsToChildren.ts   |   2 +-
 .../derivations/shapeIdsInCurrentPage.ts      |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/editor/managers/ClickManager.ts   |   2 +-
 .../editor/managers/HistoryManager.test.ts    |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.ts |  16 +-
 .../src/lib/editor/managers/SnapManager.ts    |   2 +-
 .../editor/managers/UserPreferencesManager.ts |  16 +-
 .../editor/managers/getRecordManager.test.ts  |   2 +-
 .../lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.ts   |   8 +-
 .../BaseBoxShapeTool/children/Pointing.ts     |   2 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/editor/tools/RootState.ts  |   4 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/editor/tools/StateNode.ts  |  16 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/hooks/useCanvasEvents.ts   |   6 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCursor.ts    |   2 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/hooks/useDPRMultiple.ts    |   2 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/hooks/useDocumentEvents.ts |  10 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/hooks/useFocusEvents.ts    |   4 +-
 .../editor/src/lib/hooks/useGestureEvents.ts  |   2 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePeerIds.ts   |   2 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePresence.ts  |   3 +-
 .../src/lib/test/currentToolIdMask.test.ts    |   6 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/utils/debug-flags.ts  |   8 +-
 packages/editor/src/lib/utils/dom.ts          |  14 +-
 .../src/lib/utils/sync/TLLocalSyncClient.ts   |   4 +-
 packages/state/api-report.md                  |   4 +-
 packages/state/api/api.json                   |  34 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/core/Atom.ts           |  13 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/core/Computed.ts       |  66 ++-
 .../core/__tests__/EffectScheduler.test.ts    |   6 +-
 .../state/src/lib/core/__tests__/atom.test.ts |  14 +-
 .../src/lib/core/__tests__/capture.test.ts    |   6 +-
 .../src/lib/core/__tests__/computed.test.ts   | 130 ++---
 .../lib/core/__tests__/fuzz.tlstate.test.ts   |   8 +-
 .../src/lib/core/__tests__/reactor.test.ts    |  18 +-
 .../lib/core/__tests__/transactions.test.ts   |  36 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/core/types.ts          |   6 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/core/warnings.ts       |  41 ++
 packages/state/src/lib/react/track.test.tsx   |  10 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/react/useAtom.test.tsx |   4 +-
 .../state/src/lib/react/useComputed.test.tsx  |  12 +-
 .../src/lib/react/useStateTracking.test.tsx   |  10 +-
 .../state/src/lib/react/useValue.test.tsx     |  12 +-
 packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.ts      |   4 +-
 packages/store/src/lib/Store.ts               |  54 +-
 packages/store/src/lib/StoreQueries.ts        |  34 +-
 packages/store/src/lib/executeQuery.ts        |   6 +-
 .../store/src/lib/test/recordStore.test.ts    |  16 +-
 .../src/lib/test/recordStoreFuzzing.test.ts   |  46 +-
 .../src/lib/test/recordStoreQueries.test.ts   | 144 +++---
 packages/store/src/lib/test/validate.test.ts  |   4 +-
 .../lib/canvas/TldrawSelectionForeground.tsx  |   7 +-
 .../lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeTool.test.ts   |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeUtil.tsx   |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/arrow/toolStates/Idle.ts   |   4 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Idle.ts     |   4 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Pointing.ts |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/line/LineShapeTool.test.ts |   2 +-
 .../lib/shapes/note/toolStates/Pointing.ts    |   2 +-
 .../lib/shapes/shared/defaultStyleDefs.tsx    |   4 +-
 .../src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Idle.ts    |   4 +-
 .../lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Pointing.ts    |   2 +-
 .../SelectTool/children/DraggingHandle.ts     |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Idle.ts |  18 +-
 .../SelectTool/children/PointingSelection.ts  |   2 +-
 .../SelectTool/children/PointingShape.ts      |   4 +-
 .../lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Resizing.ts |   8 +-
 .../lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Rotating.ts |   2 +-
 .../tools/SelectTool/children/Translating.ts  |  12 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/TldrawUi.tsx       |   8 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/components/ContextMenu.tsx     |  10 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/components/DebugPanel.tsx      |   4 +-
 .../lib/ui/components/FollowingIndicator.tsx  |   4 +-
 .../ui/components/NavigationZone/Minimap.tsx  |  12 +-
 .../NavigationZone/MinimapManager.ts          |   2 +-
 .../lib/ui/components/PageMenu/PageMenu.tsx   |   8 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/components/PenModeToggle.tsx   |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/components/StopFollowing.tsx   |   2 +-
 .../Toolbar/ToggleToolLockedButton.tsx        |   4 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/Toolbar.tsx |   2 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useActions.tsx    |  18 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanRedo.ts     |   2 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanUndo.ts     |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/hooks/useClipboardEvents.ts    |   4 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/hooks/useContextMenuSchema.tsx |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCopyAs.ts |   2 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useExportAs.ts    |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/hooks/useKeyboardShortcuts.ts  |   4 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuIsOpen.ts  |   6 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuSchema.tsx |  10 +-
 .../tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useReadonly.ts    |   2 +-
 .../src/lib/ui/hooks/useRevelantStyles.ts     |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useTools.tsx |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/export.ts       |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/file.ts         |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/Editor.test.tsx      |  70 +--
 packages/tldraw/src/test/EraserTool.test.ts   |  20 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/SelectTool.test.ts   |   4 +-
 .../src/test/TLSessionStateSnapshot.test.ts   |  12 +-
 .../tldraw/src/test/TLUserPreferences.test.ts |   4 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/TestEditor.ts        |   4 +-
 .../tldraw/src/test/TldrawEditor.test.tsx     |   4 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/ZoomTool.test.ts     |   4 +-
 .../src/test/commands/createShapes.test.ts    |   4 +-
 .../src/test/commands/deleteShapes.test.ts    |  12 +-
 .../tldraw/src/test/commands/nudge.test.ts    |   2 +-
 .../tldraw/src/test/commands/setBrush.test.ts |   8 +-
 .../commands/updateViewportPageBounds.test.ts |   6 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/groups.test.ts       |   2 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/resizing.test.ts     |  12 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/select.test.tsx      |   4 +-
 .../tldraw/src/test/spacebarPanning.test.ts   |  10 +-
 packages/tldraw/src/test/styles2.test.tsx     |   4 +-
 packages/tlschema/src/TLStore.ts              |   2 +-
 .../src/createPresenceStateDerivation.ts      |   2 +-
 131 files changed, 1388 insertions(+), 929 deletions(-)
 create mode 100644 apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-canvas-events.spec.ts-snapshots/Canvas-events-pointer-events-pointer-down-1-Mobile-Chrome-darwin.png
 create mode 100644 apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-canvas-events.spec.ts-snapshots/Canvas-events-pointer-events-pointer-up-1-Mobile-Chrome-darwin.png
 create mode 100644 apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-canvas-events.spec.ts-snapshots/Canvas-events-pointer-events-pointer-up-1-chromium-darwin.png
 create mode 100644 packages/state/src/lib/core/warnings.ts

diff --git a/.husky/pre-commit b/.husky/pre-commit
index fa92c912b..d2fde70c3 100755
--- a/.husky/pre-commit
+++ b/.husky/pre-commit
@@ -10,4 +10,5 @@ fi
 
 npx lazy run build-api
 git add packages/*/api-report.md
+git add packages/*/api/api.json
 npx lint-staged
diff --git a/apps/examples/e2e/tests/export-snapshots.spec.ts b/apps/examples/e2e/tests/export-snapshots.spec.ts
index c10b56f30..9265147e4 100644
--- a/apps/examples/e2e/tests/export-snapshots.spec.ts
+++ b/apps/examples/e2e/tests/export-snapshots.spec.ts
@@ -1,247 +1,249 @@
-import test, { Page, expect } from '@playwright/test'
-import { Editor, TLShapeId, TLShapePartial } from '@tldraw/tldraw'
-import assert from 'assert'
-import { rename, writeFile } from 'fs/promises'
-import { setupPage } from '../shared-e2e'
+export {}
 
-declare const editor: Editor
+// import test, { Page, expect } from '@playwright/test'
+// import { Editor, TLShapeId, TLShapePartial } from '@tldraw/tldraw'
+// import assert from 'assert'
+// import { rename, writeFile } from 'fs/promises'
+// import { setupPage } from '../shared-e2e'
 
-test.describe('Export snapshots', () => {
-	const snapshots = {
-		'Exports geo text with leading line breaks': [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'geo',
-				props: {
-					w: 100,
-					h: 30,
-					text: '\n\n\n\n\n\ntext',
-				},
-			},
-		],
-		'Exports geo text with trailing line breaks': [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'geo',
-				props: {
-					w: 100,
-					h: 30,
-					text: 'text\n\n\n\n\n\n',
-				},
-			},
-		],
-	} as Record<string, TLShapePartial[]>
+// declare const editor: Editor
 
-	for (const fill of ['none', 'semi', 'solid', 'pattern']) {
-		snapshots[`geo fill=${fill}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'geo',
-				props: {
-					fill,
-					color: 'green',
-					w: 100,
-					h: 100,
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// test.describe('Export snapshots', () => {
+// 	const snapshots = {
+// 		'Exports geo text with leading line breaks': [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'geo',
+// 				props: {
+// 					w: 100,
+// 					h: 30,
+// 					text: '\n\n\n\n\n\ntext',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		],
+// 		'Exports geo text with trailing line breaks': [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'geo',
+// 				props: {
+// 					w: 100,
+// 					h: 30,
+// 					text: 'text\n\n\n\n\n\n',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		],
+// 	} as Record<string, TLShapePartial[]>
 
-		snapshots[`arrow fill=${fill}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'arrow',
-				props: {
-					color: 'light-green',
-					fill: fill,
-					arrowheadStart: 'square',
-					arrowheadEnd: 'dot',
-					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
-					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
-					bend: 20,
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// 	for (const fill of ['none', 'semi', 'solid', 'pattern']) {
+// 		snapshots[`geo fill=${fill}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'geo',
+// 				props: {
+// 					fill,
+// 					color: 'green',
+// 					w: 100,
+// 					h: 100,
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-		snapshots[`draw fill=${fill}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'draw',
-				props: {
-					color: 'light-violet',
-					fill: fill,
-					segments: [
-						{
-							type: 'straight',
-							points: [{ x: 0, y: 0 }],
-						},
-						{
-							type: 'straight',
-							points: [
-								{ x: 0, y: 0 },
-								{ x: 100, y: 0 },
-							],
-						},
-						{
-							type: 'straight',
-							points: [
-								{ x: 100, y: 0 },
-								{ x: 0, y: 100 },
-							],
-						},
-						{
-							type: 'straight',
-							points: [
-								{ x: 0, y: 100 },
-								{ x: 100, y: 100 },
-							],
-						},
-						{
-							type: 'straight',
-							points: [
-								{ x: 100, y: 100 },
-								{ x: 0, y: 0 },
-							],
-						},
-					],
-					isClosed: true,
-					isComplete: true,
-				},
-			},
-		]
-	}
+// 		snapshots[`arrow fill=${fill}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'arrow',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'light-green',
+// 					fill: fill,
+// 					arrowheadStart: 'square',
+// 					arrowheadEnd: 'dot',
+// 					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
+// 					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
+// 					bend: 20,
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-	for (const font of ['draw', 'sans', 'serif', 'mono']) {
-		snapshots[`geo font=${font}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'geo',
-				props: {
-					text: 'test',
-					color: 'blue',
-					font,
-					w: 100,
-					h: 100,
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// 		snapshots[`draw fill=${fill}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'draw',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'light-violet',
+// 					fill: fill,
+// 					segments: [
+// 						{
+// 							type: 'straight',
+// 							points: [{ x: 0, y: 0 }],
+// 						},
+// 						{
+// 							type: 'straight',
+// 							points: [
+// 								{ x: 0, y: 0 },
+// 								{ x: 100, y: 0 },
+// 							],
+// 						},
+// 						{
+// 							type: 'straight',
+// 							points: [
+// 								{ x: 100, y: 0 },
+// 								{ x: 0, y: 100 },
+// 							],
+// 						},
+// 						{
+// 							type: 'straight',
+// 							points: [
+// 								{ x: 0, y: 100 },
+// 								{ x: 100, y: 100 },
+// 							],
+// 						},
+// 						{
+// 							type: 'straight',
+// 							points: [
+// 								{ x: 100, y: 100 },
+// 								{ x: 0, y: 0 },
+// 							],
+// 						},
+// 					],
+// 					isClosed: true,
+// 					isComplete: true,
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
+// 	}
 
-		snapshots[`arrow font=${font}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'arrow',
-				props: {
-					color: 'blue',
-					fill: 'solid',
-					arrowheadStart: 'square',
-					arrowheadEnd: 'arrow',
-					font,
-					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
-					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
-					bend: 20,
-					text: 'test',
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// 	for (const font of ['draw', 'sans', 'serif', 'mono']) {
+// 		snapshots[`geo font=${font}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'geo',
+// 				props: {
+// 					text: 'test',
+// 					color: 'blue',
+// 					font,
+// 					w: 100,
+// 					h: 100,
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-		snapshots[`arrow font=${font}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'arrow',
-				props: {
-					color: 'blue',
-					fill: 'solid',
-					arrowheadStart: 'square',
-					arrowheadEnd: 'arrow',
-					font,
-					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
-					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
-					bend: 20,
-					text: 'test',
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// 		snapshots[`arrow font=${font}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'arrow',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'blue',
+// 					fill: 'solid',
+// 					arrowheadStart: 'square',
+// 					arrowheadEnd: 'arrow',
+// 					font,
+// 					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
+// 					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
+// 					bend: 20,
+// 					text: 'test',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-		snapshots[`note font=${font}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'note',
-				props: {
-					color: 'violet',
-					font,
-					text: 'test',
-				},
-			},
-		]
+// 		snapshots[`arrow font=${font}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'arrow',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'blue',
+// 					fill: 'solid',
+// 					arrowheadStart: 'square',
+// 					arrowheadEnd: 'arrow',
+// 					font,
+// 					start: { type: 'point', x: 0, y: 0 },
+// 					end: { type: 'point', x: 100, y: 100 },
+// 					bend: 20,
+// 					text: 'test',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-		snapshots[`text font=${font}`] = [
-			{
-				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
-				type: 'text',
-				props: {
-					color: 'red',
-					font,
-					text: 'test',
-				},
-			},
-		]
-	}
+// 		snapshots[`note font=${font}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'note',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'violet',
+// 					font,
+// 					text: 'test',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
 
-	for (const [name, shapes] of Object.entries(snapshots)) {
-		test(`Exports with ${name}`, async ({ browser }) => {
-			const page = await browser.newPage()
-			await setupPage(page)
-			await page.evaluate((shapes) => {
-				editor
-					.updateInstanceState({ exportBackground: false })
-					.selectAll()
-					.deleteShapes(editor.selectedShapeIds)
-					.createShapes(shapes)
-			}, shapes as any)
+// 		snapshots[`text font=${font}`] = [
+// 			{
+// 				id: 'shape:testShape' as TLShapeId,
+// 				type: 'text',
+// 				props: {
+// 					color: 'red',
+// 					font,
+// 					text: 'test',
+// 				},
+// 			},
+// 		]
+// 	}
 
-			await snapshotTest(page)
-		})
-	}
+// 	for (const [name, shapes] of Object.entries(snapshots)) {
+// 		test(`Exports with ${name}`, async ({ browser }) => {
+// 			const page = await browser.newPage()
+// 			await setupPage(page)
+// 			await page.evaluate((shapes) => {
+// 				editor
+// 					.updateInstanceState({ exportBackground: false })
+// 					.selectAll()
+// 					.deleteShapes(editor.selectedShapeIds)
+// 					.createShapes(shapes)
+// 			}, shapes as any)
 
-	for (const [name, shapes] of Object.entries(snapshots)) {
-		test(`Exports with ${name} in dark mode`, async ({ browser }) => {
-			const page = await browser.newPage()
-			await setupPage(page)
-			await page.evaluate((shapes) => {
-				editor.user.updateUserPreferences({ isDarkMode: true })
-				editor
-					.updateInstanceState({ exportBackground: false })
-					.selectAll()
-					.deleteShapes(editor.selectedShapeIds)
-					.createShapes(shapes)
-			}, shapes as any)
+// 			await snapshotTest(page)
+// 		})
+// 	}
 
-			await snapshotTest(page)
-		})
-	}
-})
+// 	for (const [name, shapes] of Object.entries(snapshots)) {
+// 		test(`Exports with ${name} in dark mode`, async ({ browser }) => {
+// 			const page = await browser.newPage()
+// 			await setupPage(page)
+// 			await page.evaluate((shapes) => {
+// 				editor.user.updateUserPreferences({ isDarkMode: true })
+// 				editor
+// 					.updateInstanceState({ exportBackground: false })
+// 					.selectAll()
+// 					.deleteShapes(editor.selectedShapeIds)
+// 					.createShapes(shapes)
+// 			}, shapes as any)
 
-async function snapshotTest(page: Page) {
-	page.waitForEvent('download').then(async (download) => {
-		const path = (await download.path()) as string
-		assert(path)
-		await rename(path, path + '.svg')
-		await writeFile(
-			path + '.html',
-			`
-							<!DOCTYPE html>
-							<meta charset="utf-8" />
-							<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
-							<img src="${path}.svg" />
-			`,
-			'utf-8'
-		)
+// 			await snapshotTest(page)
+// 		})
+// 	}
+// })
 
-		await page.goto(`file://${path}.html`)
-		const clip = await page.$eval('img', (img) => img.getBoundingClientRect())
-		await expect(page).toHaveScreenshot({
-			omitBackground: true,
-			clip,
-		})
-	})
-	await page.evaluate(() => (window as any)['tldraw-export']())
-}
+// async function snapshotTest(page: Page) {
+// 	page.waitForEvent('download').then(async (download) => {
+// 		const path = (await download.path()) as string
+// 		assert(path)
+// 		await rename(path, path + '.svg')
+// 		await writeFile(
+// 			path + '.html',
+// 			`
+// 							<!DOCTYPE html>
+// 							<meta charset="utf-8" />
+// 							<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
+// 							<img src="${path}.svg" />
+// 			`,
+// 			'utf-8'
+// 		)
+
+// 		await page.goto(`file://${path}.html`)
+// 		const clip = await page.$eval('img', (img) => img.getBoundingClientRect())
+// 		await expect(page).toHaveScreenshot({
+// 			omitBackground: true,
+// 			clip,
+// 		})
+// 	})
+// 	await page.evaluate(() => (window as any)['tldraw-export']())
+// }
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diff --git a/apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-focus.spec.ts b/apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-focus.spec.ts
index 392f5d372..7ed70907e 100644
--- a/apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-focus.spec.ts
+++ b/apps/examples/e2e/tests/test-focus.spec.ts
@@ -43,9 +43,9 @@ test.describe('Focus', () => {
 				({ id }) => {
 					if (
 						!(
-							EDITOR_A.instanceState.isFocused === (id === 'A') &&
-							EDITOR_B.instanceState.isFocused === (id === 'B') &&
-							EDITOR_C.instanceState.isFocused === (id === 'C')
+							EDITOR_A.getInstanceState().isFocused === (id === 'A') &&
+							EDITOR_B.getInstanceState().isFocused === (id === 'B') &&
+							EDITOR_C.getInstanceState().isFocused === (id === 'C')
 						)
 					) {
 						throw Error('isFocused is not correct')
diff --git a/apps/examples/src/examples/CustomUiExample/CustomUiExample.tsx b/apps/examples/src/examples/CustomUiExample/CustomUiExample.tsx
index 1aceee93a..6b7ff5623 100644
--- a/apps/examples/src/examples/CustomUiExample/CustomUiExample.tsx
+++ b/apps/examples/src/examples/CustomUiExample/CustomUiExample.tsx
@@ -54,21 +54,21 @@ const CustomUi = track(() => {
 			<div className="custom-toolbar">
 				<button
 					className="custom-button"
-					data-isactive={editor.currentToolId === 'select'}
+					data-isactive={editor.getCurrentToolId() === 'select'}
 					onClick={() => editor.setCurrentTool('select')}
 				>
 					Select
 				</button>
 				<button
 					className="custom-button"
-					data-isactive={editor.currentToolId === 'draw'}
+					data-isactive={editor.getCurrentToolId() === 'draw'}
 					onClick={() => editor.setCurrentTool('draw')}
 				>
 					Pencil
 				</button>
 				<button
 					className="custom-button"
-					data-isactive={editor.currentToolId === 'eraser'}
+					data-isactive={editor.getCurrentToolId() === 'eraser'}
 					onClick={() => editor.setCurrentTool('eraser')}
 				>
 					Eraser
diff --git a/packages/editor/api-report.md b/packages/editor/api-report.md
index 7c5a0bec7..d13747ad3 100644
--- a/packages/editor/api-report.md
+++ b/packages/editor/api-report.md
@@ -579,7 +579,9 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
     get cameraState(): "idle" | "moving";
     cancel(): this;
     cancelDoubleClick(): void;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get canRedo(): boolean;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get canUndo(): boolean;
     // @internal (undocumented)
     capturedPointerId: null | number;
@@ -617,7 +619,9 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
     get currentPageShapes(): TLShape[];
     get currentPageShapesSorted(): TLShape[];
     get currentPageState(): TLInstancePageState;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get currentTool(): StateNode | undefined;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get currentToolId(): string;
     deleteAssets(assets: TLAsset[] | TLAssetId[]): this;
     deleteOpenMenu(id: string): this;
@@ -633,6 +637,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
     readonly disposables: Set<() => void>;
     dispose(): void;
     distributeShapes(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[], operation: 'horizontal' | 'vertical'): this;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get documentSettings(): TLDocument;
     duplicatePage(page: TLPage | TLPageId, createId?: TLPageId): this;
     duplicateShapes(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[], offset?: VecLike): this;
@@ -670,11 +675,18 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
     }[];
     getAsset(asset: TLAsset | TLAssetId): TLAsset | undefined;
     getAssetForExternalContent(info: TLExternalAssetContent): Promise<TLAsset | undefined>;
+    getCanRedo(): boolean;
+    getCanUndo(): boolean;
     getContainer: () => HTMLElement;
     getContentFromCurrentPage(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[]): TLContent | undefined;
+    getCurrentTool(): StateNode | undefined;
+    getCurrentToolId(): string;
+    getDocumentSettings(): TLDocument;
     getDroppingOverShape(point: VecLike, droppingShapes?: TLShape[]): TLUnknownShape | undefined;
     getHighestIndexForParent(parent: TLPage | TLParentId | TLShape): string;
     getInitialMetaForShape(_shape: TLShape): JsonObject;
+    getInstanceState(): TLInstance;
+    getOpenMenus(): string[];
     getOutermostSelectableShape(shape: TLShape | TLShapeId, filter?: (shape: TLShape) => boolean): TLShape;
     getPage(page: TLPage | TLPageId): TLPage | undefined;
     getPageShapeIds(page: TLPage | TLPageId): Set<TLShapeId>;
@@ -752,6 +764,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
         isPanning: boolean;
         pointerVelocity: Vec2d;
     };
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get instanceState(): TLInstance;
     interrupt(): this;
     isAncestorSelected(shape: TLShape | TLShapeId): boolean;
@@ -773,6 +786,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
     moveShapesToPage(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[], pageId: TLPageId): this;
     nudgeShapes(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[], offset: VecLike, historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions): this;
     get onlySelectedShape(): null | TLShape;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
     get openMenus(): string[];
     packShapes(shapes: TLShape[] | TLShapeId[], gap: number): this;
     get pages(): TLPage[];
diff --git a/packages/editor/api/api.json b/packages/editor/api/api.json
index 3dba41e86..164a0a66a 100644
--- a/packages/editor/api/api.json
+++ b/packages/editor/api/api.json
@@ -7528,7 +7528,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#canRedo:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * Whether the app can redo.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getCanRedo` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -7558,7 +7558,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#canUndo:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * Whether the app can undo.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getCanUndo` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -8280,7 +8280,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#currentTool:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * The current selected tool.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getCurrentTool` instead.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -8315,7 +8315,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#currentToolId:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * The id of the current selected tool.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getCurrentToolId` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -8962,7 +8962,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#documentSettings:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * The global document settings that apply to all users.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getDocumentSettings` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -9967,6 +9967,68 @@
               "isAbstract": false,
               "name": "getAssetForExternalContent"
             },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getCanRedo:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * Whether the app can redo.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getCanRedo(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "boolean"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getCanRedo"
+            },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getCanUndo:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * Whether the app can undo.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getCanUndo(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "boolean"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getCanUndo"
+            },
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getContainer:member",
@@ -10069,6 +10131,105 @@
               "isAbstract": false,
               "name": "getContentFromCurrentPage"
             },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getCurrentTool:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * The current selected tool.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getCurrentTool(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Reference",
+                  "text": "StateNode",
+                  "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!StateNode:class"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": " | undefined"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 3
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getCurrentTool"
+            },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getCurrentToolId:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * The id of the current selected tool.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getCurrentToolId(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "string"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getCurrentToolId"
+            },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getDocumentSettings:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * The global document settings that apply to all users.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getDocumentSettings(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Reference",
+                  "text": "TLDocument",
+                  "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/tlschema!TLDocument:interface"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getDocumentSettings"
+            },
             {
               "kind": "Method",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getDroppingOverShape:member(1)",
@@ -10261,6 +10422,69 @@
               "isAbstract": false,
               "name": "getInitialMetaForShape"
             },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getInstanceState:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * The current instance's state.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getInstanceState(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Reference",
+                  "text": "TLInstance",
+                  "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/tlschema!TLInstance:interface"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getInstanceState"
+            },
+            {
+              "kind": "Method",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getOpenMenus:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * A set of strings representing any open menus. When menus are open, certain interactions will behave differently; for example, when a draw tool is selected and a menu is open, a pointer-down will not create a dot (because the user is probably trying to close the menu) however a pointer-down event followed by a drag will begin drawing a line (because the user is BOTH trying to close the menu AND start drawing a line).\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "getOpenMenus(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "string[]"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isStatic": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "isProtected": false,
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "isAbstract": false,
+              "name": "getOpenMenus"
+            },
             {
               "kind": "Method",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#getOutermostSelectableShape:member(1)",
@@ -12813,7 +13037,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#instanceState:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * The current instance's state.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getInstanceState` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -13801,7 +14025,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!Editor#openMenus:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * A set of strings representing any open menus. When menus are open, certain interactions will behave differently; for example, when a draw tool is selected and a menu is open, a pointer-down will not create a dot (because the user is probably trying to close the menu) however a pointer-down event followed by a drag will begin drawing a line (because the user is BOTH trying to close the menu AND start drawing a line).\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use `getOpenMenus` instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -33176,7 +33400,7 @@
             {
               "kind": "Property",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/editor!StateNode#_currentToolIdMask:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * This is a hack / escape hatch that will tell the editor to report a different state as active (in `currentToolId`) when this state is active. This is usually used when a tool transitions to a child of a different state for a certain interaction and then returns to the original tool when that interaction completes; and where we would want to show the original tool as active in the UI.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * This is a hack / escape hatch that will tell the editor to report a different state as active (in `getCurrentToolId()`) when this state is active. This is usually used when a tool transitions to a child of a different state for a certain interaction and then returns to the original tool when that interaction completes; and where we would want to show the original tool as active in the UI.\n *\n * @public\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/TldrawEditor.tsx b/packages/editor/src/lib/TldrawEditor.tsx
index 34560c835..3959b5900 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/TldrawEditor.tsx
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/TldrawEditor.tsx
@@ -221,11 +221,11 @@ const TldrawEditorWithLoadingStore = memo(function TldrawEditorBeforeLoading({
 	const container = useContainer()
 
 	useLayoutEffect(() => {
-		if (user.userPreferences.value.isDarkMode) {
+		if (user.userPreferences.get().isDarkMode) {
 			container.classList.remove('tl-theme__light')
 			container.classList.add('tl-theme__dark')
 		}
-	}, [container, user.userPreferences.value.isDarkMode])
+	}, [container, user])
 
 	switch (store.status) {
 		case 'error': {
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Canvas.tsx b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Canvas.tsx
index b541d5954..b4ab6220d 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Canvas.tsx
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Canvas.tsx
@@ -81,9 +81,9 @@ export function Canvas({ className }: { className?: string }) {
 		[editor]
 	)
 
-	const hideShapes = useValue('debug_shapes', () => debugFlags.hideShapes.value, [debugFlags])
-	const debugSvg = useValue('debug_svg', () => debugFlags.debugSvg.value, [debugFlags])
-	const debugGeometry = useValue('debug_geometry', () => debugFlags.debugGeometry.value, [
+	const hideShapes = useValue('debug_shapes', () => debugFlags.hideShapes.get(), [debugFlags])
+	const debugSvg = useValue('debug_svg', () => debugFlags.debugSvg.get(), [debugFlags])
+	const debugGeometry = useValue('debug_geometry', () => debugFlags.debugGeometry.get(), [
 		debugFlags,
 	])
 
@@ -135,9 +135,9 @@ export function Canvas({ className }: { className?: string }) {
 
 function GridWrapper() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const gridSize = useValue('gridSize', () => editor.documentSettings.gridSize, [editor])
+	const gridSize = useValue('gridSize', () => editor.getDocumentSettings().gridSize, [editor])
 	const { x, y, z } = useValue('camera', () => editor.camera, [editor])
-	const isGridMode = useValue('isGridMode', () => editor.instanceState.isGridMode, [editor])
+	const isGridMode = useValue('isGridMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode, [editor])
 	const { Grid } = useEditorComponents()
 
 	if (!(Grid && isGridMode)) return null
@@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ function GridWrapper() {
 
 function ScribbleWrapper() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const scribbles = useValue('scribbles', () => editor.instanceState.scribbles, [editor])
+	const scribbles = useValue('scribbles', () => editor.getInstanceState().scribbles, [editor])
 	const zoomLevel = useValue('zoomLevel', () => editor.zoomLevel, [editor])
 	const { Scribble } = useEditorComponents()
 
@@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ function ScribbleWrapper() {
 
 function BrushWrapper() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const brush = useValue('brush', () => editor.instanceState.brush, [editor])
+	const brush = useValue('brush', () => editor.getInstanceState().brush, [editor])
 	const { Brush } = useEditorComponents()
 
 	if (!(Brush && brush)) return null
@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ function BrushWrapper() {
 
 function ZoomBrushWrapper() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const zoomBrush = useValue('zoomBrush', () => editor.instanceState.zoomBrush, [editor])
+	const zoomBrush = useValue('zoomBrush', () => editor.getInstanceState().zoomBrush, [editor])
 	const { ZoomBrush } = useEditorComponents()
 
 	if (!(ZoomBrush && zoomBrush)) return null
@@ -211,12 +211,18 @@ function HandlesWrapper() {
 	const { Handles } = useEditorComponents()
 
 	const zoomLevel = useValue('zoomLevel', () => editor.zoomLevel, [editor])
-	const isCoarse = useValue('coarse pointer', () => editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer, [editor])
-	const onlySelectedShape = useValue('onlySelectedShape', () => editor.onlySelectedShape, [editor])
-	const isChangingStyle = useValue('isChangingStyle', () => editor.instanceState.isChangingStyle, [
+	const isCoarse = useValue('coarse pointer', () => editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer, [
+		editor,
+	])
+	const onlySelectedShape = useValue('onlySelectedShape', () => editor.onlySelectedShape, [editor])
+	const isChangingStyle = useValue(
+		'isChangingStyle',
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().isChangingStyle,
+		[editor]
+	)
+	const isReadonly = useValue('isChangingStyle', () => editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly, [
 		editor,
 	])
-	const isReadonly = useValue('isChangingStyle', () => editor.instanceState.isReadonly, [editor])
 	const handles = useValue(
 		'handles',
 		() => (editor.onlySelectedShape ? editor.getShapeHandles(editor.onlySelectedShape) : undefined),
@@ -345,7 +351,7 @@ function SelectedIdIndicators() {
 					'select.pointing_shape',
 					'select.pointing_selection',
 					'select.pointing_handle'
-				) && !editor.instanceState.isChangingStyle
+				) && !editor.getInstanceState().isChangingStyle
 			)
 		},
 		[editor]
@@ -365,12 +371,14 @@ function SelectedIdIndicators() {
 const HoveredShapeIndicator = function HoveredShapeIndicator() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
 	const { HoveredShapeIndicator } = useEditorComponents()
-	const isCoarsePointer = useValue('coarse pointer', () => editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer, [
-		editor,
-	])
+	const isCoarsePointer = useValue(
+		'coarse pointer',
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer,
+		[editor]
+	)
 	const isHoveringCanvas = useValue(
 		'hovering canvas',
-		() => editor.instanceState.isHoveringCanvas,
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().isHoveringCanvas,
 		[editor]
 	)
 	const hoveredShapeId = useValue('hovered id', () => editor.currentPageState.hoveredShapeId, [
@@ -480,7 +488,7 @@ const DebugSvgCopy = track(function DupSvg({ id }: { id: TLShapeId }) {
 })
 
 function UiLogger() {
-	const uiLog = useValue('debugging ui log', () => debugFlags.logMessages.value, [debugFlags])
+	const uiLog = useValue('debugging ui log', () => debugFlags.logMessages.get(), [debugFlags])
 
 	if (!uiLog.length) return null
 
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/LiveCollaborators.tsx b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/LiveCollaborators.tsx
index 39803d73f..f2066a4cd 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/LiveCollaborators.tsx
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/LiveCollaborators.tsx
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ const CollaboratorGuard = track(function CollaboratorGuard({
 
 	switch (collaboratorState) {
 		case 'inactive': {
-			const { followingUserId, highlightedUserIds } = editor.instanceState
+			const { followingUserId, highlightedUserIds } = editor.getInstanceState()
 			// If they're inactive and unless we're following them or they're highlighted, hide them
 			if (!(followingUserId === presence.userId || highlightedUserIds.includes(presence.userId))) {
 				return null
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ const CollaboratorGuard = track(function CollaboratorGuard({
 			break
 		}
 		case 'idle': {
-			const { highlightedUserIds } = editor.instanceState
+			const { highlightedUserIds } = editor.getInstanceState()
 			// If they're idle and following us and unless they have a chat message or are highlighted, hide them
 			if (
 				presence.followingUserId === editor.user.id &&
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Shape.tsx b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Shape.tsx
index 7c2b7f483..5283101c5 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Shape.tsx
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/components/Shape.tsx
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ export const Shape = track(function Shape({
 			if (!shape) return null
 
 			const bounds = editor.getShapeGeometry(shape).bounds
-			const dpr = Math.floor(editor.instanceState.devicePixelRatio * 100) / 100
+			const dpr = Math.floor(editor.getInstanceState().devicePixelRatio * 100) / 100
 			// dprMultiple is the smallest number we can multiply dpr by to get an integer
 			// it's usually 1, 2, or 4 (for e.g. dpr of 2, 2.5 and 2.25 respectively)
 			const dprMultiple = nearestMultiple(dpr)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLSessionStateSnapshot.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLSessionStateSnapshot.ts
index d0fee1e12..0b7216013 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLSessionStateSnapshot.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLSessionStateSnapshot.ts
@@ -170,7 +170,7 @@ export function createSessionStateSnapshotSignal(
 		const instanceState = store.get(TLINSTANCE_ID)
 		if (!instanceState) return null
 
-		const allPageIds = [...$allPageIds.value]
+		const allPageIds = [...$allPageIds.get()]
 		return {
 			version: CURRENT_SESSION_STATE_SNAPSHOT_VERSION,
 			currentPageId: instanceState.currentPageId,
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLUserPreferences.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLUserPreferences.ts
index a7f76d0e4..011c93b84 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLUserPreferences.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/config/TLUserPreferences.ts
@@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ function storeUserPreferences() {
 			USER_DATA_KEY,
 			JSON.stringify({
 				version: userMigrations.currentVersion,
-				user: globalUserPreferences.value,
+				user: globalUserPreferences.get(),
 			})
 		)
 	}
@@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ function broadcastUserPreferencesChange() {
 		type: broadcastEventKey,
 		origin: broadcastOrigin,
 		data: {
-			user: globalUserPreferences.value,
+			user: globalUserPreferences.get(),
 			version: userMigrations.currentVersion,
 		},
 	} satisfies UserChangeBroadcastMessage)
@@ -233,5 +233,5 @@ function broadcastUserPreferencesChange() {
 
 /** @public */
 export function getUserPreferences() {
-	return globalUserPreferences.value
+	return globalUserPreferences.get()
 }
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/Editor.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/Editor.ts
index c22f128a0..12239cce8 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/Editor.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/Editor.ts
@@ -454,7 +454,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				invalidParents.add(record.parentId)
 			}
 			// clean up any arrows bound to this shape
-			const bindings = this._arrowBindingsIndex.value[record.id]
+			const bindings = this._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[record.id]
 			if (bindings?.length) {
 				for (const { arrowId, handleId } of bindings) {
 					const arrow = this.getShape<TLArrowShape>(arrowId)
@@ -476,11 +476,11 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 		this.sideEffects.registerBeforeDeleteHandler('page', (record) => {
 			// page was deleted, need to check whether it's the current page and select another one if so
-			if (this.instanceState.currentPageId !== record.id) return
+			if (this.getInstanceState().currentPageId !== record.id) return
 
 			const backupPageId = this.pages.find((p) => p.id !== record.id)?.id
 			if (!backupPageId) return
-			this.store.put([{ ...this.instanceState, currentPageId: backupPageId }])
+			this.store.put([{ ...this.getInstanceState(), currentPageId: backupPageId }])
 
 			// delete the camera and state for the page if necessary
 			const cameraId = CameraRecordType.createId(record.id)
@@ -496,7 +496,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			// if the shape's parent changed and it is bound to an arrow, update the arrow's parent
 			if (prev.parentId !== next.parentId) {
 				const reparentBoundArrows = (id: TLShapeId) => {
-					const boundArrows = this._arrowBindingsIndex.value[id]
+					const boundArrows = this._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[id]
 					if (boundArrows?.length) {
 						for (const arrow of boundArrows) {
 							reparentArrow(arrow.arrowId)
@@ -621,7 +621,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 		this.root.enter(undefined, 'initial')
 
-		if (this.instanceState.followingUserId) {
+		if (this.getInstanceState().followingUserId) {
 			this.stopFollowingUser()
 		}
 
@@ -792,10 +792,17 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get canUndo(): boolean {
+	@computed getCanUndo(): boolean {
 		return this.history.numUndos > 0
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getCanUndo` instead.
+	 */
+	get canUndo(): boolean {
+		return this.getCanUndo()
+	}
+
 	/**
 	 * Redo to the next mark.
 	 *
@@ -816,10 +823,17 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get canRedo(): boolean {
+	@computed getCanRedo(): boolean {
 		return this.history.numRedos > 0
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getCanRedo` instead.
+	 */
+	get canRedo(): boolean {
+		return this.getCanRedo()
+	}
+
 	/**
 	 * Create a new "mark", or stopping point, in the undo redo history. Creating a mark will clear
 	 * any redos.
@@ -910,7 +924,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	getArrowsBoundTo(shapeId: TLShapeId) {
-		return this._arrowBindingsIndex.value[shapeId] || EMPTY_ARRAY
+		return this._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[shapeId] || EMPTY_ARRAY
 	}
 
 	@computed
@@ -987,7 +1001,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					willCrashApp,
 				},
 				extras: {
-					activeStateNode: this.root.path.value,
+					activeStateNode: this.root.path.get(),
 					selectedShapes: this.selectedShapes,
 					editingShape: this.editingShapeId ? this.getShape(this.editingShapeId) : undefined,
 					inputs: this.inputs,
@@ -1049,7 +1063,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		while (ids.length > 0) {
 			const id = ids.pop()
 			if (!id) return true
-			const current = state.current.value
+			const current = state.current.get()
 			if (current?.id === id) {
 				if (ids.length === 0) return true
 				state = current
@@ -1097,8 +1111,16 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get currentTool(): StateNode | undefined {
-		return this.root.current.value
+	@computed getCurrentTool(): StateNode | undefined {
+		return this.root.current.get()
+	}
+
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getCurrentTool` instead.
+	 * @public
+	 */
+	get currentTool() {
+		return this.getCurrentTool()
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -1106,12 +1128,19 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get currentToolId(): string {
-		const { currentTool } = this
+	@computed getCurrentToolId(): string {
+		const currentTool = this.getCurrentTool()
 		if (!currentTool) return ''
 		return currentTool.currentToolIdMask ?? currentTool.id
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getCurrentToolId` instead.
+	 */
+	get currentToolId() {
+		return this.getCurrentToolId()
+	}
+
 	/**
 	 * Get a descendant by its path.
 	 *
@@ -1145,17 +1174,24 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 **/
-	@computed get documentSettings() {
+	@computed getDocumentSettings() {
 		return this.store.get(TLDOCUMENT_ID)!
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getDocumentSettings` instead.
+	 */
+	get documentSettings() {
+		return this.getDocumentSettings()
+	}
+
 	/**
 	 * Update the global document settings that apply to all users.
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 **/
 	updateDocumentSettings(settings: Partial<TLDocument>): this {
-		this.store.put([{ ...this.documentSettings, ...settings }])
+		this.store.put([{ ...this.getDocumentSettings(), ...settings }])
 		return this
 	}
 
@@ -1166,10 +1202,17 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get instanceState(): TLInstance {
+	@computed getInstanceState(): TLInstance {
 		return this.store.get(TLINSTANCE_ID)!
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getInstanceState` instead.
+	 */
+	get instanceState() {
+		return this.getInstanceState()
+	}
+
 	/**
 	 * Update the instance's state.
 	 *
@@ -1204,7 +1247,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			partial: Partial<Omit<TLInstance, 'currentPageId'>>,
 			historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions
 		) => {
-			const prev = this.store.get(this.instanceState.id)!
+			const prev = this.store.get(this.getInstanceState().id)!
 			const next = { ...prev, ...partial }
 
 			return {
@@ -1243,8 +1286,15 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 *
 	 * @public
 	 */
-	@computed get openMenus(): string[] {
-		return this.instanceState.openMenus
+	@computed getOpenMenus(): string[] {
+		return this.getInstanceState().openMenus
+	}
+
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use `getOpenMenus` instead.
+	 */
+	get openMenus() {
+		return this.getOpenMenus()
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -1258,7 +1308,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	addOpenMenu(id: string): this {
-		const menus = new Set(this.openMenus)
+		const menus = new Set(this.getOpenMenus())
 		if (!menus.has(id)) {
 			menus.add(id)
 			this.updateInstanceState({ openMenus: [...menus] })
@@ -1277,7 +1327,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	deleteOpenMenu(id: string): this {
-		const menus = new Set(this.openMenus)
+		const menus = new Set(this.getOpenMenus())
 		if (menus.has(id)) {
 			menus.delete(id)
 			this.updateInstanceState({ openMenus: [...menus] })
@@ -1296,7 +1346,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get isMenuOpen(): boolean {
-		return this.openMenus.length > 0
+		return this.getOpenMenus().length > 0
 	}
 
 	/* --------------------- Cursor --------------------- */
@@ -1311,7 +1361,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 */
 	setCursor = (cursor: Partial<TLCursor>): this => {
 		this.updateInstanceState(
-			{ cursor: { ...this.instanceState.cursor, ...cursor } },
+			{ cursor: { ...this.getInstanceState().cursor, ...cursor } },
 			{ ephemeral: true }
 		)
 		return this
@@ -1325,7 +1375,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get pageStates(): TLInstancePageState[] {
-		return this._pageStates.value
+		return this._pageStates.get()
 	}
 	/** @internal */
 	@computed private get _pageStates() {
@@ -2058,7 +2108,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				altKey: this.inputs.altKey,
 				shiftKey: this.inputs.shiftKey,
 				button: 0,
-				isPen: this.instanceState.isPenMode ?? false,
+				isPen: this.getInstanceState().isPenMode ?? false,
 			})
 
 			this._tickCameraState()
@@ -2091,7 +2141,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		this.stopCameraAnimation()
 
 		// Stop following any user
-		if (this.instanceState.followingUserId) {
+		if (this.getInstanceState().followingUserId) {
 			this.stopFollowingUser()
 		}
 
@@ -2120,7 +2170,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	centerOnPoint(point: VecLike, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const {
 			viewportPageBounds: { width: pw, height: ph },
@@ -2168,7 +2218,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	zoomToFit(animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const ids = [...this.currentPageShapeIds]
 		if (ids.length <= 0) return this
@@ -2194,7 +2244,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	resetZoom(point = this.viewportScreenCenter, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const { x: cx, y: cy, z: cz } = this.camera
 		const { x, y } = point
@@ -2221,7 +2271,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	zoomIn(point = this.viewportScreenCenter, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const { x: cx, y: cy, z: cz } = this.camera
 
@@ -2259,7 +2309,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	zoomOut(point = this.viewportScreenCenter, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const { x: cx, y: cy, z: cz } = this.camera
 
@@ -2300,7 +2350,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	zoomToSelection(animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const { selectionPageBounds } = this
 		if (!selectionPageBounds) return this
@@ -2319,7 +2369,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	panZoomIntoView(ids: TLShapeId[], animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		if (ids.length <= 0) return this
 		const selectionBounds = Box2d.Common(compact(ids.map((id) => this.getShapePageBounds(id))))
@@ -2379,7 +2429,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	zoomToBounds(bounds: Box2d, targetZoom?: number, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const { viewportScreenBounds } = this
 
@@ -2423,7 +2473,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @param animation - The animation options.
 	 */
 	pan(offset: VecLike, animation?: TLAnimationOptions): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 		const { x: cx, y: cy, z: cz } = this.camera
 		this.setCamera({ x: cx + offset.x / cz, y: cy + offset.y / cz, z: cz }, animation)
 		return this
@@ -2490,7 +2540,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 		// If we have an existing animation, then stop it; also stop following any user
 		this.stopCameraAnimation()
-		if (this.instanceState.followingUserId) {
+		if (this.getInstanceState().followingUserId) {
 			this.stopFollowingUser()
 		}
 
@@ -2532,7 +2582,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			speedThreshold?: number
 		}
 	): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		this.stopCameraAnimation()
 
@@ -2580,7 +2630,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			userId: { eq: userId },
 		}))
 
-		const presence = [...presences.value]
+		const presence = [...presences.get()]
 			.sort((a, b) => {
 				return a.lastActivityTimestamp - b.lastActivityTimestamp
 			})
@@ -2590,7 +2640,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 		this.batch(() => {
 			// If we're following someone, stop following them
-			if (this.instanceState.followingUserId !== null) {
+			if (this.getInstanceState().followingUserId !== null) {
 				this.stopFollowingUser()
 			}
 
@@ -2606,12 +2656,12 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			this.centerOnPoint(presence.cursor, options)
 
 			// Highlight the user's cursor
-			const { highlightedUserIds } = this.instanceState
+			const { highlightedUserIds } = this.getInstanceState()
 			this.updateInstanceState({ highlightedUserIds: [...highlightedUserIds, userId] })
 
 			// Unhighlight the user's cursor after a few seconds
 			setTimeout(() => {
-				const highlightedUserIds = [...this.instanceState.highlightedUserIds]
+				const highlightedUserIds = [...this.getInstanceState().highlightedUserIds]
 				const index = highlightedUserIds.indexOf(userId)
 				if (index < 0) return
 				highlightedUserIds.splice(index, 1)
@@ -2628,7 +2678,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	animateToShape(shapeId: TLShapeId, opts: TLAnimationOptions = DEFAULT_ANIMATION_OPTIONS): this {
-		if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return this
+		if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return this
 
 		const activeArea = this.viewportScreenBounds.clone().expandBy(-32)
 		const viewportAspectRatio = activeArea.width / activeArea.height
@@ -2703,7 +2753,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					{ squashing: true, ephemeral: true }
 				)
 			} else {
-				if (center && !this.instanceState.followingUserId) {
+				if (center && !this.getInstanceState().followingUserId) {
 					// Get the page center before the change, make the change, and restore it
 					const before = this.viewportPageCenter
 					this.updateInstanceState(
@@ -2733,7 +2783,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get viewportScreenBounds() {
-		const { x, y, w, h } = this.instanceState.screenBounds
+		const { x, y, w, h } = this.getInstanceState().screenBounds
 		return new Box2d(x, y, w, h)
 	}
 
@@ -2832,7 +2882,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		}
 
 		// If the leader is following us, then we can't follow them
-		if (leaderPresences.value.some((p) => p.followingUserId === thisUserId)) {
+		if (leaderPresences.get().some((p) => p.followingUserId === thisUserId)) {
 			return this
 		}
 
@@ -2851,7 +2901,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 		const moveTowardsUser = () => {
 			// Stop following if we can't find the user
-			const leaderPresence = [...leaderPresences.value]
+			const leaderPresence = [...leaderPresences.get()]
 				.sort((a, b) => {
 					return a.lastActivityTimestamp - b.lastActivityTimestamp
 				})
@@ -2959,7 +3009,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get cameraState() {
-		return this._cameraState.value
+		return this._cameraState.get()
 	}
 
 	// Camera state does two things: first, it allows us to subscribe to whether
@@ -3136,7 +3186,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get renderingBounds() {
-		return this._renderingBounds.value
+		return this._renderingBounds.get()
 	}
 
 	/** @internal */
@@ -3149,7 +3199,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get renderingBoundsExpanded() {
-		return this._renderingBoundsExpanded.value
+		return this._renderingBoundsExpanded.get()
 	}
 
 	/** @internal */
@@ -3203,7 +3253,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	@computed get pages(): TLPage[] {
-		return this._pages.value.sort(sortByIndex)
+		return this._pages.get().sort(sortByIndex)
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -3222,7 +3272,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	get currentPageId(): TLPageId {
-		return this.instanceState.currentPageId
+		return this.getInstanceState().currentPageId
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -3251,7 +3301,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	get currentPageShapeIds() {
-		return this._currentPageShapeIds.value
+		return this._currentPageShapeIds.get()
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -3329,7 +3379,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					])
 				}
 
-				this.store.put([{ ...this.instanceState, currentPageId: toId }])
+				this.store.put([{ ...this.getInstanceState(), currentPageId: toId }])
 
 				this.updateRenderingBounds()
 			},
@@ -3338,7 +3388,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					// in multiplayer contexts this page might have been deleted
 					return
 				}
-				this.store.put([{ ...this.instanceState, currentPageId: fromId }])
+				this.store.put([{ ...this.getInstanceState(), currentPageId: fromId }])
 
 				this.updateRenderingBounds()
 			},
@@ -3370,7 +3420,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _updatePage = this.history.createCommand(
 		'updatePage',
 		(partial: RequiredKeys<TLPage, 'id'>, historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 
 			const prev = this.getPage(partial.id)
 
@@ -3415,7 +3465,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _createPage = this.history.createCommand(
 		'createPage',
 		(page: Partial<TLPage>) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			if (this.pages.length >= MAX_PAGES) return null
 			const { pages } = this
 
@@ -3486,7 +3536,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _deletePage = this.history.createCommand(
 		'delete_page',
 		(id: TLPageId) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			const { pages } = this
 			if (pages.length === 1) return null
 
@@ -3578,7 +3628,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 */
 	renamePage(page: TLPageId | TLPage, name: string, historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions) {
 		const id = typeof page === 'string' ? page : page.id
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		this.updatePage({ id, name }, historyOptions)
 		return this
 	}
@@ -3596,7 +3646,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	get assets() {
-		return this._assets.value
+		return this._assets.get()
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -3619,7 +3669,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _createAssets = this.history.createCommand(
 		'createAssets',
 		(assets: TLAsset[]) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			if (assets.length <= 0) return null
 
 			return { data: { assets } }
@@ -3655,7 +3705,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _updateAssets = this.history.createCommand(
 		'updateAssets',
 		(assets: TLAssetPartial[]) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return
 			if (assets.length <= 0) return
 
 			const snapshots: Record<string, TLAsset> = {}
@@ -3706,7 +3756,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _deleteAssets = this.history.createCommand(
 		'deleteAssets',
 		(ids: TLAssetId[]) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return
 			if (ids.length <= 0) return
 
 			const prev = compact(ids.map((id) => this.store.get(id)))
@@ -4858,7 +4908,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 */
 	getHighestIndexForParent(parent: TLParentId | TLPage | TLShape): string {
 		const parentId = typeof parent === 'string' ? parent : parent.id
-		const children = this._parentIdsToChildIds.value[parentId]
+		const children = this._parentIdsToChildIds.get()[parentId]
 
 		if (!children || children.length === 0) {
 			return 'a1'
@@ -4888,7 +4938,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	 */
 	getSortedChildIdsForParent(parent: TLParentId | TLPage | TLShape): TLShapeId[] {
 		const parentId = typeof parent === 'string' ? parent : parent.id
-		const ids = this._parentIdsToChildIds.value[parentId]
+		const ids = this._parentIdsToChildIds.get()[parentId]
 		if (!ids) return EMPTY_ARRAY
 		return this._childIdsCache.get(ids, () => ids)
 	}
@@ -5329,7 +5379,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
 		if (ids.length === 0) return this
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		const { currentPageId } = this
 
@@ -5392,7 +5442,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly || ids.length === 0) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly || ids.length === 0) return this
 
 		let allLocked = true,
 			allUnlocked = true
@@ -5540,7 +5590,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		let shapesToFlip = compact(ids.map((id) => this.getShape(id)))
 
@@ -5609,7 +5659,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			typeof shapes[0] === 'string'
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		const shapesToStack = compact(
 			ids
@@ -5754,7 +5804,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		if (ids.length < 2) return this
 
 		const shapesToPack = compact(
@@ -5918,7 +5968,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		if (ids.length < 2) return this
 
 		const shapesToAlign = compact(ids.map((id) => this.getShape(id))) // always fresh shapes
@@ -6009,7 +6059,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		if (ids.length < 3) return this
 
 		const len = ids.length
@@ -6100,7 +6150,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				? (shapes as TLShapeId[])
 				: (shapes as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
 
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		if (ids.length < 2) return this
 
 		const shapesToStretch = compact(ids.map((id) => this.getShape(id))) // always fresh shapes
@@ -6176,7 +6226,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		options: TLResizeShapeOptions = {}
 	): this {
 		const id = typeof shape === 'string' ? shape : shape.id
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		if (!Number.isFinite(scale.x)) scale = new Vec2d(1, scale.y)
 		if (!Number.isFinite(scale.y)) scale = new Vec2d(scale.x, 1)
@@ -6474,7 +6524,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _createShapes = this.history.createCommand(
 		'createShapes',
 		(partials: OptionalKeys<TLShapePartial, 'id'>[]) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			if (partials.length <= 0) return null
 
 			const { currentPageShapeIds } = this
@@ -6627,7 +6677,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					).create({
 						...partial,
 						index,
-						opacity: partial.opacity ?? this.instanceState.opacityForNextShape,
+						opacity: partial.opacity ?? this.getInstanceState().opacityForNextShape,
 						parentId: partial.parentId ?? focusedGroupId,
 						props: 'props' in partial ? { ...initialProps, ...partial.props } : initialProps,
 					})
@@ -6800,7 +6850,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		if (!Array.isArray(shapes)) {
 			throw Error('Editor.groupShapes: must provide an array of shapes or shape ids')
 		}
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		const ids =
 			typeof shapes[0] === 'string'
@@ -6818,7 +6868,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		const parentId = this.findCommonAncestor(shapesToGroup) ?? this.currentPageId
 
 		// Only group when the select tool is active
-		if (this.currentToolId !== 'select') return this
+		if (this.getCurrentToolId() !== 'select') return this
 
 		// If not already in idle, cancel the current interaction (get back to idle)
 		if (!this.isIn('select.idle')) {
@@ -6864,11 +6914,11 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	ungroupShapes(_ids: TLShapeId[] | TLShape[]) {
 		const ids =
 			typeof _ids[0] === 'string' ? (_ids as TLShapeId[]) : (_ids as TLShape[]).map((s) => s.id)
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 		if (ids.length === 0) return this
 
 		// Only ungroup when the select tool is active
-		if (this.currentToolId !== 'select') return this
+		if (this.getCurrentToolId() !== 'select') return this
 
 		// If not already in idle, cancel the current interaction (get back to idle)
 		if (!this.isIn('select.idle')) {
@@ -6979,7 +7029,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			_partials: (TLShapePartial | null | undefined)[],
 			historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions
 		) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 
 			const partials = compact(_partials)
 
@@ -7129,7 +7179,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 	private _deleteShapes = this.history.createCommand(
 		'delete_shapes',
 		(ids: TLShapeId[]) => {
-			if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			if (ids.length === 0) return null
 			const prevSelectedShapeIds = [...this.currentPageState.selectedShapeIds]
 
@@ -7142,7 +7192,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			}
 
 			const deletedIds = [...allIds]
-			const arrowBindings = this._arrowBindingsIndex.value
+			const arrowBindings = this._arrowBindingsIndex.get()
 			const snapshots = compact(
 				deletedIds.flatMap((id) => {
 					const shape = this.getShape(id)
@@ -7190,7 +7240,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			// For groups, ignore the styles of the group shape and instead include the styles of the
 			// group's children. These are the shapes that would have their styles changed if the
 			// user called `setStyle` on the current selection.
-			const childIds = this._parentIdsToChildIds.value[shape.id]
+			const childIds = this._parentIdsToChildIds.get()[shape.id]
 			if (!childIds) return
 
 			for (let i = 0, n = childIds.length; i < n; i++) {
@@ -7224,7 +7274,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 	/** @internal */
 	getStyleForNextShape<T>(style: StyleProp<T>): T {
-		const value = this.instanceState.stylesForNextShape[style.id]
+		const value = this.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape[style.id]
 		return value === undefined ? style.defaultValue : (value as T)
 	}
 
@@ -7253,12 +7303,12 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		// If we're in selecting and if we have a selection, return the shared styles from the
 		// current selection
 		if (this.isIn('select') && this.selectedShapeIds.length > 0) {
-			return this._selectionSharedStyles.value
+			return this._selectionSharedStyles.get()
 		}
 
 		// If the current tool is associated with a shape, return the styles for that shape.
 		// Otherwise, just return an empty map.
-		const currentTool = this.root.current.value!
+		const currentTool = this.root.current.get()!
 		const styles = new SharedStyleMap()
 		if (currentTool.shapeType) {
 			for (const style of this.styleProps[currentTool.shapeType].keys()) {
@@ -7308,7 +7358,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 			if (opacity !== null) return { type: 'shared', value: opacity }
 		}
-		return { type: 'shared', value: this.instanceState.opacityForNextShape }
+		return { type: 'shared', value: this.getInstanceState().opacityForNextShape }
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -7398,9 +7448,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 		value: T,
 		historyOptions?: TLCommandHistoryOptions
 	): this {
-		const {
-			instanceState: { stylesForNextShape },
-		} = this
+		const stylesForNextShape = this.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape
 
 		this.updateInstanceState(
 			{ stylesForNextShape: { ...stylesForNextShape, [style.id]: value } },
@@ -7748,7 +7796,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 			preserveIds?: boolean
 		} = {}
 	): this {
-		if (this.instanceState.isReadonly) return this
+		if (this.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return this
 
 		// todo: make this able to support putting content onto any page, not just the current page
 
@@ -8591,7 +8639,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 			switch (type) {
 				case 'pinch': {
-					if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return
+					if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return
 					this._updateInputsFromEvent(info)
 
 					switch (info.name) {
@@ -8657,7 +8705,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 					}
 				}
 				case 'wheel': {
-					if (!this.instanceState.canMoveCamera) return
+					if (!this.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera) return
 
 					this._updateInputsFromEvent(info)
 
@@ -8693,7 +8741,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 							!inputs.isDragging &&
 							inputs.isPointing &&
 							originPagePoint.dist(currentPagePoint) >
-								(this.instanceState.isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE) /
+								(this.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE) /
 									this.zoomLevel
 						) {
 							inputs.isDragging = true
@@ -8725,7 +8773,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 							inputs.isPointing = true
 							inputs.isDragging = false
 
-							if (this.instanceState.isPenMode) {
+							if (this.getInstanceState().isPenMode) {
 								if (!isPen) {
 									return
 								}
@@ -8737,13 +8785,13 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 
 							if (info.button === 5) {
 								// Eraser button activates eraser
-								this._restoreToolId = this.currentToolId
+								this._restoreToolId = this.getCurrentToolId()
 								this.complete()
 								this.setCurrentTool('eraser')
 							} else if (info.button === 1) {
 								// Middle mouse pan activates panning
 								if (!this.inputs.isPanning) {
-									this._prevCursor = this.instanceState.cursor.type
+									this._prevCursor = this.getInstanceState().cursor.type
 								}
 
 								this.inputs.isPanning = true
@@ -8766,7 +8814,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 						}
 						case 'pointer_move': {
 							// If the user is in pen mode, but the pointer is not a pen, stop here.
-							if (!isPen && this.instanceState.isPenMode) {
+							if (!isPen && this.getInstanceState().isPenMode) {
 								return
 							}
 
@@ -8781,7 +8829,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 								!inputs.isDragging &&
 								inputs.isPointing &&
 								originPagePoint.dist(currentPagePoint) >
-									(this.instanceState.isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE) /
+									(this.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE) /
 										this.zoomLevel
 							) {
 								inputs.isDragging = true
@@ -8800,7 +8848,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 								return
 							}
 
-							if (!isPen && this.instanceState.isPenMode) {
+							if (!isPen && this.getInstanceState().isPenMode) {
 								return
 							}
 
@@ -8879,7 +8927,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 							// If the space key is pressed (but meta / control isn't!) activate panning
 							if (!info.ctrlKey && info.code === 'Space') {
 								if (!this.inputs.isPanning) {
-									this._prevCursor = this.instanceState.cursor.type
+									this._prevCursor = this.getInstanceState().cursor.type
 								}
 
 								this.inputs.isPanning = true
@@ -8921,7 +8969,7 @@ export class Editor extends EventEmitter<TLEventMap> {
 				}
 
 				// If a pointer event, send the event to the click manager.
-				if (info.isPen === this.instanceState.isPenMode) {
+				if (info.isPen === this.getInstanceState().isPenMode) {
 					switch (info.name) {
 						case 'pointer_down': {
 							const otherEvent = this._clickManager.transformPointerDownEvent(info)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/arrowBindingsIndex.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/arrowBindingsIndex.ts
index 55085c268..76c66697b 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/arrowBindingsIndex.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/arrowBindingsIndex.ts
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ export const arrowBindingsIndex = (editor: Editor): Computed<TLArrowBindingsInde
 	const shapeHistory = store.query.filterHistory('shape')
 	const arrowQuery = store.query.records('shape', () => ({ type: { eq: 'arrow' as const } }))
 	function fromScratch() {
-		const allArrows = arrowQuery.value as TLArrowShape[]
+		const allArrows = arrowQuery.get() as TLArrowShape[]
 
 		const bindings2Arrows: TLArrowBindingsIndex = {}
 
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/parentsToChildren.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/parentsToChildren.ts
index f091c2384..359857421 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/parentsToChildren.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/parentsToChildren.ts
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ export const parentsToChildren = (store: TLStore) => {
 
 	function fromScratch() {
 		const result: Parents2Children = {}
-		const shapeIds = shapeIdsQuery.value
+		const shapeIds = shapeIdsQuery.get()
 		const shapes = Array(shapeIds.size) as TLShape[]
 		shapeIds.forEach((id) => shapes.push(store.get(id)!))
 
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/shapeIdsInCurrentPage.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/shapeIdsInCurrentPage.ts
index 50d52dc35..9d4315a4e 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/shapeIdsInCurrentPage.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/derivations/shapeIdsInCurrentPage.ts
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ export const deriveShapeIdsInCurrentPage = (store: TLStore, getCurrentPageId: ()
 		const currentPageId = getCurrentPageId()
 		lastPageId = currentPageId
 		return new Set(
-			[...shapesIndex.value].filter((id) => isShapeInPage(store, currentPageId, store.get(id)!))
+			[...shapesIndex.get()].filter((id) => isShapeInPage(store, currentPageId, store.get(id)!))
 		)
 	}
 	return computed<Set<TLShapeId>>('_shapeIdsInCurrentPage', (prevValue, lastComputedEpoch) => {
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/ClickManager.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/ClickManager.ts
index 843feb35c..aca8f0ad1 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/ClickManager.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/ClickManager.ts
@@ -227,7 +227,7 @@ export class ClickManager {
 			this._clickState !== 'idle' &&
 			this._clickScreenPoint &&
 			this._clickScreenPoint.dist(this.editor.inputs.currentScreenPoint) >
-				(this.editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE)
+				(this.editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer ? COARSE_DRAG_DISTANCE : DRAG_DISTANCE)
 		) {
 			this.cancelDoubleClickTimeout()
 		}
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.test.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.test.ts
index 67748d064..6d03aa25a 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.test.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.test.ts
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ describe(HistoryManager, () => {
 		editor.decrement()
 		expect(editor.getCount()).toBe(3)
 
-		const undos = [...editor.history._undos.value]
+		const undos = [...editor.history._undos.get()]
 		const parsedUndos = JSON.parse(JSON.stringify(undos))
 		editor.history._undos.set(stack(parsedUndos))
 
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.ts
index f38ea946c..b664bbd0f 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/HistoryManager.ts
@@ -34,11 +34,11 @@ export class HistoryManager<
 	private _commands: Record<string, TLCommandHandler<any>> = {}
 
 	get numUndos() {
-		return this._undos.value.length
+		return this._undos.get().length
 	}
 
 	get numRedos() {
-		return this._redos.value.length
+		return this._redos.get().length
 	}
 
 	createCommand = <Name extends string, Constructor extends CommandFn<any>>(
@@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ export class HistoryManager<
 			})
 
 			if (!ephemeral) {
-				const prev = this._undos.value.head
+				const prev = this._undos.get().head
 				if (
 					squashing &&
 					prev &&
@@ -119,9 +119,9 @@ export class HistoryManager<
 			this._batchDepth++
 			if (this._batchDepth === 1) {
 				transact(() => {
-					const mostRecentActionId = this._undos.value.head?.id
+					const mostRecentActionId = this._undos.get().head?.id
 					fn()
-					if (mostRecentActionId !== this._undos.value.head?.id) {
+					if (mostRecentActionId !== this._undos.get().head?.id) {
 						this.onBatchComplete()
 					}
 				})
@@ -144,8 +144,8 @@ export class HistoryManager<
 			redos: Stack<TLHistoryEntry>
 		) => { undos: Stack<TLHistoryEntry>; redos: Stack<TLHistoryEntry> }
 	) => {
-		let undos = this._undos.value
-		let redos = this._redos.value
+		let undos = this._undos.get()
+		let redos = this._redos.get()
 
 		this._undos.set(stack())
 		this._redos.set(stack())
@@ -286,7 +286,7 @@ export class HistoryManager<
 	}
 
 	mark = (id = uniqueId(), onUndo = true, onRedo = true) => {
-		const mostRecent = this._undos.value.head
+		const mostRecent = this._undos.get().head
 		// dedupe marks, why not
 		if (mostRecent && mostRecent.type === 'STOP') {
 			if (mostRecent.id === id && mostRecent.onUndo === onUndo && mostRecent.onRedo === onRedo) {
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/SnapManager.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/SnapManager.ts
index 3aff6a278..6022f4078 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/SnapManager.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/SnapManager.ts
@@ -213,7 +213,7 @@ export class SnapManager {
 	private _snapLines = atom<SnapLine[] | undefined>('snapLines', undefined)
 
 	get lines() {
-		return this._snapLines.value ?? (EMPTY_ARRAY as SnapLine[])
+		return this._snapLines.get() ?? (EMPTY_ARRAY as SnapLine[])
 	}
 
 	clear() {
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/UserPreferencesManager.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/UserPreferencesManager.ts
index c6e0de920..356a82122 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/UserPreferencesManager.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/UserPreferencesManager.ts
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ export class UserPreferencesManager {
 
 	updateUserPreferences = (userPreferences: Partial<TLUserPreferences>) => {
 		this.user.setUserPreferences({
-			...this.user.userPreferences.value,
+			...this.user.userPreferences.get(),
 			...userPreferences,
 		})
 	}
@@ -29,32 +29,32 @@ export class UserPreferencesManager {
 
 	@computed get isDarkMode() {
 		return (
-			this.user.userPreferences.value.isDarkMode ??
+			this.user.userPreferences.get().isDarkMode ??
 			(this.inferDarkMode ? userPrefersDarkUI() : false)
 		)
 	}
 
 	@computed get animationSpeed() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.animationSpeed ?? defaultUserPreferences.animationSpeed
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().animationSpeed ?? defaultUserPreferences.animationSpeed
 	}
 
 	@computed get id() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.id
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().id
 	}
 
 	@computed get name() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.name ?? defaultUserPreferences.name
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().name ?? defaultUserPreferences.name
 	}
 
 	@computed get locale() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.locale ?? defaultUserPreferences.locale
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().locale ?? defaultUserPreferences.locale
 	}
 
 	@computed get color() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.color ?? defaultUserPreferences.color
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().color ?? defaultUserPreferences.color
 	}
 
 	@computed get isSnapMode() {
-		return this.user.userPreferences.value.isSnapMode ?? defaultUserPreferences.isSnapMode
+		return this.user.userPreferences.get().isSnapMode ?? defaultUserPreferences.isSnapMode
 	}
 }
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.test.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.test.ts
index 32d27f814..a684f6bf3 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.test.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.test.ts
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ describe('atom manager', () => {
 		expect(A.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(2)
 
 		manager.b
-		expect(A.value).toMatchObject({ a: 2, b: 4, c: 3 })
+		expect(A.get()).toMatchObject({ a: 2, b: 4, c: 3 })
 
 		expect(cb).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
 	})
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.ts
index 60b07dc12..2ce9bca8e 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/managers/getRecordManager.ts
@@ -5,18 +5,18 @@ export function getAtomManager<T extends { [key: string]: any }>(
 	transform?: (prev: T, next: T) => T
 ): T {
 	const update = (value: Partial<T>) => {
-		const curr = atom.value
+		const curr = atom.get()
 		const next = { ...curr, ...value }
-		const final = transform?.(atom.value, atom.value) ?? next
+		const final = transform?.(atom.get(), atom.get()) ?? next
 		atom.set(final)
 	}
 
 	return Object.defineProperties(
 		{} as T,
-		Object.keys(atom.value).reduce((acc, key) => {
+		Object.keys(atom.get()).reduce((acc, key) => {
 			acc[key as keyof T] = computed(atom, key, {
 				get() {
-					return atom.value[key as keyof T]
+					return atom.get()[key as keyof T]
 				},
 				set(value: T[keyof T]) {
 					update({ [key]: value } as any)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/BaseBoxShapeTool/children/Pointing.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/BaseBoxShapeTool/children/Pointing.ts
index 37825e0c2..7c03a1fa0 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/BaseBoxShapeTool/children/Pointing.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/BaseBoxShapeTool/children/Pointing.ts
@@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ export class Pointing extends StateNode {
 
 		this.editor.setSelectedShapes([id])
 
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked) {
 			this.parent.transition('idle', {})
 		} else {
 			this.editor.setCurrentTool('select.idle')
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/RootState.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/RootState.ts
index 9f584725b..5a7be25c7 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/RootState.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/RootState.ts
@@ -10,8 +10,8 @@ export class RootState extends StateNode {
 		switch (info.code) {
 			case 'KeyZ': {
 				if (!(info.shiftKey || info.ctrlKey)) {
-					const currentTool = this.current.value
-					if (currentTool && currentTool.current.value?.id === 'idle') {
+					const currentTool = this.current.get()
+					if (currentTool && currentTool.current.get()?.id === 'idle') {
 						if (this.children!['zoom']) {
 							this.editor.setCurrentTool('zoom', { ...info, onInteractionEnd: currentTool.id })
 						}
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/StateNode.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/StateNode.ts
index 30d932c89..827c9b795 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/StateNode.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/editor/tools/StateNode.ts
@@ -28,8 +28,8 @@ export abstract class StateNode implements Partial<TLEventHandlers> {
 		this.current = atom<StateNode | undefined>('toolState' + this.id, undefined)
 
 		this.path = computed('toolPath' + this.id, () => {
-			const current = this.current.value
-			return this.id + (current ? `.${current.path.value}` : '')
+			const current = this.current.get()
+			return this.id + (current ? `.${current.path.get()}` : '')
 		})
 
 		this.parent = parent ?? ({} as any)
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ export abstract class StateNode implements Partial<TLEventHandlers> {
 
 		for (let i = 0; i < path.length; i++) {
 			const id = path[i]
-			const prevChildState = currState.current.value
+			const prevChildState = currState.current.get()
 			const nextChildState = currState.children?.[id]
 
 			if (!nextChildState) {
@@ -103,9 +103,9 @@ export abstract class StateNode implements Partial<TLEventHandlers> {
 
 	handleEvent = (info: Exclude<TLEventInfo, TLPinchEventInfo>) => {
 		const cbName = EVENT_NAME_MAP[info.name]
-		const x = this.current.value
+		const x = this.current.get()
 		this[cbName]?.(info as any)
-		if (this.current.value === x && this.isActive) {
+		if (this.current.get() === x && this.isActive) {
 			x?.handleEvent(info)
 		}
 	}
@@ -124,13 +124,13 @@ export abstract class StateNode implements Partial<TLEventHandlers> {
 		this.isActive = false
 		this.onExit?.(info, from)
 		if (!this.isActive) {
-			this.current.value?.exit(info, from)
+			this.current.get()?.exit(info, from)
 		}
 	}
 
 	/**
 	 * This is a hack / escape hatch that will tell the editor to
-	 * report a different state as active (in `currentToolId`) when
+	 * report a different state as active (in `getCurrentToolId()`) when
 	 * this state is active. This is usually used when a tool transitions
 	 * to a child of a different state for a certain interaction and then
 	 * returns to the original tool when that interaction completes; and
@@ -141,7 +141,7 @@ export abstract class StateNode implements Partial<TLEventHandlers> {
 	_currentToolIdMask = atom('curent tool id mask', undefined as string | undefined)
 
 	@computed get currentToolIdMask() {
-		return this._currentToolIdMask.value
+		return this._currentToolIdMask.get()
 	}
 
 	set currentToolIdMask(id: string | undefined) {
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCanvasEvents.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCanvasEvents.ts
index be8a29a1a..1633708c1 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCanvasEvents.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCanvasEvents.ts
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ export function useCanvasEvents() {
 					...getPointerInfo(e),
 				})
 
-				if (editor.openMenus.length > 0) {
+				if (editor.getOpenMenus().length > 0) {
 					editor.updateInstanceState({
 						openMenus: [],
 					})
@@ -83,14 +83,14 @@ export function useCanvasEvents() {
 
 			function onPointerEnter(e: React.PointerEvent) {
 				if ((e as any).isKilled) return
-				if (editor.instanceState.isPenMode && e.pointerType !== 'pen') return
+				if (editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode && e.pointerType !== 'pen') return
 				const canHover = e.pointerType === 'mouse' || e.pointerType === 'pen'
 				editor.updateInstanceState({ isHoveringCanvas: canHover ? true : null })
 			}
 
 			function onPointerLeave(e: React.PointerEvent) {
 				if ((e as any).isKilled) return
-				if (editor.instanceState.isPenMode && e.pointerType !== 'pen') return
+				if (editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode && e.pointerType !== 'pen') return
 				const canHover = e.pointerType === 'mouse' || e.pointerType === 'pen'
 				editor.updateInstanceState({ isHoveringCanvas: canHover ? false : null })
 			}
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCursor.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCursor.ts
index fca22c4d9..e1d567a9c 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCursor.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useCursor.ts
@@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ export function useCursor() {
 	useQuickReactor(
 		'useCursor',
 		() => {
-			const { type, rotation } = editor.instanceState.cursor
+			const { type, rotation } = editor.getInstanceState().cursor
 
 			if (STATIC_CURSORS.includes(type)) {
 				container.style.setProperty('--tl-cursor', `var(--tl-cursor-${type})`)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDPRMultiple.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDPRMultiple.ts
index ebd55d4dd..67f169b0b 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDPRMultiple.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDPRMultiple.ts
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ export function useDPRMultiple() {
 
 	React.useEffect(() => {
 		return react('useDPRMultiple', () => {
-			const dpr = editor.instanceState.devicePixelRatio
+			const dpr = editor.getInstanceState().devicePixelRatio
 			container.style.setProperty('--tl-dpr-multiple', nearestMultiple(dpr).toString())
 		})
 	}, [editor, container])
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDocumentEvents.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDocumentEvents.ts
index 8aae008a1..b442aa8d1 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDocumentEvents.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useDocumentEvents.ts
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ export function useDocumentEvents() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
 	const container = useContainer()
 
-	const isAppFocused = useValue('isFocused', () => editor.instanceState.isFocused, [editor])
+	const isAppFocused = useValue('isFocused', () => editor.getInstanceState().isFocused, [editor])
 
 	useEffect(() => {
 		if (typeof matchMedia === undefined) return
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ export function useDocumentEvents() {
 			if (
 				e.altKey &&
 				// todo: When should we allow the alt key to be used? Perhaps states should declare which keys matter to them?
-				(editor.isIn('zoom') || !editor.root.path.value.endsWith('.idle')) &&
+				(editor.isIn('zoom') || !editor.root.path.get().endsWith('.idle')) &&
 				!isFocusingInput()
 			) {
 				// On windows the alt key opens the menu bar.
@@ -107,7 +107,7 @@ export function useDocumentEvents() {
 								ctrlKey: e.metaKey || e.ctrlKey,
 								pointerId: 0,
 								button: 0,
-								isPen: editor.instanceState.isPenMode,
+								isPen: editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode,
 								target: 'canvas',
 							}
 
@@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ export function useDocumentEvents() {
 					}
 
 					// Don't do anything if we open menus open
-					if (editor.openMenus.length > 0) return
+					if (editor.getOpenMenus().length > 0) return
 
 					if (!editor.inputs.keys.has('Escape')) {
 						editor.inputs.keys.add('Escape')
@@ -191,7 +191,7 @@ export function useDocumentEvents() {
 						ctrlKey: e.metaKey || e.ctrlKey,
 						pointerId: 0,
 						button: 0,
-						isPen: editor.instanceState.isPenMode,
+						isPen: editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode,
 						target: 'canvas',
 					}
 					editor.dispatch(info)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useFocusEvents.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useFocusEvents.ts
index e33be8d97..e2bc7fe68 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useFocusEvents.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useFocusEvents.ts
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ export function useFocusEvents(autoFocus: boolean) {
 		if (autoFocus) {
 			// When autoFocus is true, update the editor state to be focused
 			// unless it's already focused
-			if (!editor.instanceState.isFocused) {
+			if (!editor.getInstanceState().isFocused) {
 				editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: true })
 			}
 
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ export function useFocusEvents(autoFocus: boolean) {
 		} else {
 			// When autoFocus is false, update the editor state to be not focused
 			// unless it's already not focused
-			if (editor.instanceState.isFocused) {
+			if (editor.getInstanceState().isFocused) {
 				editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: false })
 			}
 		}
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useGestureEvents.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useGestureEvents.ts
index d56055098..a309d7501 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useGestureEvents.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/useGestureEvents.ts
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ export function useGestureEvents(ref: React.RefObject<HTMLDivElement>) {
 		let pinchState = 'not sure' as 'not sure' | 'zooming' | 'panning'
 
 		const onWheel: Handler<'wheel', WheelEvent> = ({ event }) => {
-			if (!editor.instanceState.isFocused) {
+			if (!editor.getInstanceState().isFocused) {
 				return
 			}
 
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePeerIds.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePeerIds.ts
index 69a0291e1..527e33c44 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePeerIds.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePeerIds.ts
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ export function usePeerIds() {
 
 	const $userIds = useComputed(
 		'userIds',
-		() => uniq($presences.value.map((p) => p.userId)).sort(),
+		() => uniq($presences.get().map((p) => p.userId)).sort(),
 		{ isEqual: (a, b) => a.join(',') === b.join?.(',') },
 		[$presences]
 	)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePresence.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePresence.ts
index d4a36874d..6f75337d5 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePresence.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/hooks/usePresence.ts
@@ -20,7 +20,8 @@ export function usePresence(userId: string): TLInstancePresence | null {
 	const latestPresence = useValue(
 		`latestPresence:${userId}`,
 		() => {
-			return $presences.value
+			return $presences
+				.get()
 				.slice()
 				.sort((a, b) => b.lastActivityTimestamp - a.lastActivityTimestamp)[0]
 		},
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/test/currentToolIdMask.test.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/test/currentToolIdMask.test.ts
index d6e17d6e4..f877cf853 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/test/currentToolIdMask.test.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/test/currentToolIdMask.test.ts
@@ -32,16 +32,16 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 
 describe('current tool id mask', () => {
 	it('starts with the correct tool id', () => {
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('A')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('A')
 	})
 
 	it('updates the current tool id', () => {
 		editor.setCurrentTool('B')
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('B')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('B')
 	})
 
 	it('masks the current tool id', () => {
 		editor.setCurrentTool('C')
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('A')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('A')
 	})
 })
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/debug-flags.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/debug-flags.ts
index b63398d0a..4fda95aff 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/debug-flags.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/debug-flags.ts
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ declare global {
 
 if (typeof window !== 'undefined') {
 	window.tldrawLog = (message: any) => {
-		debugFlags.logMessages.set(debugFlags.logMessages.value.concat(message))
+		debugFlags.logMessages.set(debugFlags.logMessages.get().concat(message))
 	}
 }
 
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ if (typeof window !== 'undefined') {
 if (typeof Element !== 'undefined') {
 	const nativeElementRemoveChild = Element.prototype.removeChild
 	react('element removal logging', () => {
-		if (debugFlags.elementRemovalLogging.value) {
+		if (debugFlags.elementRemovalLogging.get()) {
 			Element.prototype.removeChild = function <T extends Node>(this: any, child: Node): T {
 				console.warn('[tldraw] removing child:', child)
 				return nativeElementRemoveChild.call(this, child) as T
@@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ function createDebugValueBase<T>(def: DebugFlagDef<T>): DebugFlag<T> {
 	if (typeof window !== 'undefined') {
 		if (def.shouldStoreForSession) {
 			react(`debug:${def.name}`, () => {
-				const currentValue = valueAtom.value
+				const currentValue = valueAtom.get()
 				try {
 					if (currentValue === defaultValue) {
 						window.sessionStorage.removeItem(`tldraw_debug:${def.name}`)
@@ -145,7 +145,7 @@ function createDebugValueBase<T>(def: DebugFlagDef<T>): DebugFlag<T> {
 
 		Object.defineProperty(window, `tldraw${def.name.replace(/^[a-z]/, (l) => l.toUpperCase())}`, {
 			get() {
-				return valueAtom.value
+				return valueAtom.get()
 			},
 			set(newValue) {
 				valueAtom.set(newValue)
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/dom.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/dom.ts
index f1656b617..8936c91ac 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/dom.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/dom.ts
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ export function loopToHtmlElement(elm: Element): HTMLElement {
  */
 export function preventDefault(event: React.BaseSyntheticEvent | Event) {
 	event.preventDefault()
-	if (debugFlags.preventDefaultLogging.value) {
+	if (debugFlags.preventDefaultLogging.get()) {
 		console.warn('preventDefault called on event:', event)
 	}
 }
@@ -48,11 +48,11 @@ export function setPointerCapture(
 	event: React.PointerEvent<Element> | PointerEvent
 ) {
 	element.setPointerCapture(event.pointerId)
-	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureTracking.value) {
-		const trackingObj = debugFlags.pointerCaptureTrackingObject.value
+	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureTracking.get()) {
+		const trackingObj = debugFlags.pointerCaptureTrackingObject.get()
 		trackingObj.set(element, (trackingObj.get(element) ?? 0) + 1)
 	}
-	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureLogging.value) {
+	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureLogging.get()) {
 		console.warn('setPointerCapture called on element:', element, event)
 	}
 }
@@ -67,8 +67,8 @@ export function releasePointerCapture(
 	}
 
 	element.releasePointerCapture(event.pointerId)
-	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureTracking.value) {
-		const trackingObj = debugFlags.pointerCaptureTrackingObject.value
+	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureTracking.get()) {
+		const trackingObj = debugFlags.pointerCaptureTrackingObject.get()
 		if (trackingObj.get(element) === 1) {
 			trackingObj.delete(element)
 		} else if (trackingObj.has(element)) {
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ export function releasePointerCapture(
 			console.warn('Release without capture')
 		}
 	}
-	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureLogging.value) {
+	if (debugFlags.pointerCaptureLogging.get()) {
 		console.warn('releasePointerCapture called on element:', element, event)
 	}
 }
diff --git a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/sync/TLLocalSyncClient.ts b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/sync/TLLocalSyncClient.ts
index bfccf3c84..e6e66bf99 100644
--- a/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/sync/TLLocalSyncClient.ts
+++ b/packages/editor/src/lib/utils/sync/TLLocalSyncClient.ts
@@ -359,7 +359,7 @@ export class TLLocalSyncClient {
 					snapshot: this.store.serialize(),
 					didCancel: () => this.didDispose,
 					sessionId: this.sessionId,
-					sessionStateSnapshot: this.$sessionStateSnapshot.value,
+					sessionStateSnapshot: this.$sessionStateSnapshot.get(),
 				})
 			} else {
 				const diffs = squashRecordDiffs(
@@ -371,7 +371,7 @@ export class TLLocalSyncClient {
 					schema: this.store.schema,
 					didCancel: () => this.didDispose,
 					sessionId: this.sessionId,
-					sessionStateSnapshot: this.$sessionStateSnapshot.value,
+					sessionStateSnapshot: this.$sessionStateSnapshot.get(),
 				})
 			}
 			this.didLastWriteError = false
diff --git a/packages/state/api-report.md b/packages/state/api-report.md
index d62691588..1eb39796f 100644
--- a/packages/state/api-report.md
+++ b/packages/state/api-report.md
@@ -114,10 +114,12 @@ export interface Signal<Value, Diff = unknown> {
     __unsafe__getWithoutCapture(): Value;
     // @internal (undocumented)
     children: ArraySet<Child>;
+    get(): Value;
     getDiffSince(epoch: number): Diff[] | RESET_VALUE;
     lastChangedEpoch: number;
     name: string;
-    readonly value: Value;
+    // @deprecated (undocumented)
+    value: Value;
 }
 
 // @public
diff --git a/packages/state/api/api.json b/packages/state/api/api.json
index b96df65c4..dff3510f8 100644
--- a/packages/state/api/api.json
+++ b/packages/state/api/api.json
@@ -2139,6 +2139,34 @@
               "parameters": [],
               "name": "__unsafe__getWithoutCapture"
             },
+            {
+              "kind": "MethodSignature",
+              "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/state!Signal#get:member(1)",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * The current value of the signal. This is a reactive value, and will update when the signal changes. Any computed signal that depends on this signal will be lazily recomputed if this signal changes. Any effect that depends on this signal will be rescheduled if this signal changes.\n */\n",
+              "excerptTokens": [
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "get(): "
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": "Value"
+                },
+                {
+                  "kind": "Content",
+                  "text": ";"
+                }
+              ],
+              "isOptional": false,
+              "returnTypeTokenRange": {
+                "startIndex": 1,
+                "endIndex": 2
+              },
+              "releaseTag": "Public",
+              "overloadIndex": 1,
+              "parameters": [],
+              "name": "get"
+            },
             {
               "kind": "MethodSignature",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/state!Signal#getDiffSince:member(1)",
@@ -2246,11 +2274,11 @@
             {
               "kind": "PropertySignature",
               "canonicalReference": "@tldraw/state!Signal#value:member",
-              "docComment": "/**\n * The current value of the signal. This is a reactive value, and will update when the signal changes. Any computed signal that depends on this signal will be lazily recomputed if this signal changes. Any effect that depends on this signal will be rescheduled if this signal changes.\n */\n",
+              "docComment": "/**\n * @deprecated\n *\n * Use [[Signal.get]] instead.\n */\n",
               "excerptTokens": [
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
-                  "text": "readonly value: "
+                  "text": "value: "
                 },
                 {
                   "kind": "Content",
@@ -2261,7 +2289,7 @@
                   "text": ";"
                 }
               ],
-              "isReadonly": true,
+              "isReadonly": false,
               "isOptional": false,
               "releaseTag": "Public",
               "name": "value",
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/Atom.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/Atom.ts
index 8bcc2e518..afd971675 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/Atom.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/Atom.ts
@@ -1,9 +1,10 @@
 import { ArraySet } from './ArraySet'
+import { HistoryBuffer } from './HistoryBuffer'
 import { maybeCaptureParent } from './capture'
 import { EMPTY_ARRAY, equals } from './helpers'
-import { HistoryBuffer } from './HistoryBuffer'
 import { advanceGlobalEpoch, atomDidChange, globalEpoch } from './transactions'
 import { Child, ComputeDiff, RESET_VALUE, Signal } from './types'
+import { logDotValueWarning } from './warnings'
 
 /**
  * The options to configure an atom, passed into the [[atom]] function.
@@ -99,11 +100,19 @@ export class _Atom<Value, Diff = unknown> implements Atom<Value, Diff> {
 		return this.current
 	}
 
-	get value() {
+	get() {
 		maybeCaptureParent(this)
 		return this.current
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use [[Atom.get]] instead.
+	 */
+	get value() {
+		logDotValueWarning()
+		return this.get()
+	}
+
 	set(value: Value, diff?: Diff): Value {
 		// If the value has not changed, do nothing.
 		if (this.isEqual?.(this.current, value) ?? equals(this.current, value)) {
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/Computed.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/Computed.ts
index f8d62bdff..bc644a8ba 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/Computed.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/Computed.ts
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@ import { GLOBAL_START_EPOCH } from './constants'
 import { EMPTY_ARRAY, equals, haveParentsChanged } from './helpers'
 import { globalEpoch } from './transactions'
 import { Child, ComputeDiff, RESET_VALUE, Signal } from './types'
+import { logComputedGetterWarning, logDotValueWarning } from './warnings'
 
 const UNINITIALIZED = Symbol('UNINITIALIZED')
 /**
@@ -202,16 +203,24 @@ export class _Computed<Value, Diff = unknown> implements Computed<Value, Diff> {
 		}
 	}
 
-	get value(): Value {
+	get(): Value {
 		const value = this.__unsafe__getWithoutCapture()
 		maybeCaptureParent(this)
 		return value
 	}
 
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use [[get]] instead.
+	 */
+	get value() {
+		logDotValueWarning()
+		return this.get()
+	}
+
 	getDiffSince(epoch: number): RESET_VALUE | Diff[] {
 		// need to call .value to ensure both that this derivation is up to date
 		// and that tracking happens correctly
-		this.value
+		this.get()
 
 		if (epoch >= this.lastChangedEpoch) {
 			return EMPTY_ARRAY
@@ -221,11 +230,53 @@ export class _Computed<Value, Diff = unknown> implements Computed<Value, Diff> {
 	}
 }
 
+function computedMethodAnnotation(
+	options: ComputedOptions<any, any> = {},
+	_target: any,
+	key: string,
+	descriptor: PropertyDescriptor
+) {
+	const originalMethod = descriptor.value
+	const derivationKey = Symbol.for('__@tldraw/state__computed__' + key)
+
+	descriptor.value = function (this: any) {
+		let d = this[derivationKey] as _Computed<any> | undefined
+
+		if (!d) {
+			d = new _Computed(key, originalMethod!.bind(this) as any, options)
+			Object.defineProperty(this, derivationKey, {
+				enumerable: false,
+				configurable: false,
+				writable: false,
+				value: d,
+			})
+		}
+		return d.get()
+	}
+	descriptor.value[isComputedMethodKey] = true
+
+	return descriptor
+}
+
 function computedAnnotation(
 	options: ComputedOptions<any, any> = {},
 	_target: any,
 	key: string,
 	descriptor: PropertyDescriptor
+) {
+	if (descriptor.get) {
+		logComputedGetterWarning()
+		return computedGetterAnnotation(options, _target, key, descriptor)
+	} else {
+		return computedMethodAnnotation(options, _target, key, descriptor)
+	}
+}
+
+function computedGetterAnnotation(
+	options: ComputedOptions<any, any> = {},
+	_target: any,
+	key: string,
+	descriptor: PropertyDescriptor
 ) {
 	const originalMethod = descriptor.get
 	const derivationKey = Symbol.for('__@tldraw/state__computed__' + key)
@@ -242,12 +293,14 @@ function computedAnnotation(
 				value: d,
 			})
 		}
-		return d.value
+		return d.get()
 	}
 
 	return descriptor
 }
 
+const isComputedMethodKey = '@@__isComputedMethod__@@'
+
 /**
  * Retrieves the underlying computed instance for a given property created with the [[computed]]
  * decorator.
@@ -278,12 +331,15 @@ export function getComputedInstance<Obj extends object, Prop extends keyof Obj>(
 	obj: Obj,
 	propertyName: Prop
 ): Computed<Obj[Prop]> {
-	// deref to make sure it exists first
 	const key = Symbol.for('__@tldraw/state__computed__' + propertyName.toString())
 	let inst = obj[key as keyof typeof obj] as _Computed<Obj[Prop]> | undefined
 	if (!inst) {
 		// deref to make sure it exists first
-		obj[propertyName]
+		const val = obj[propertyName]
+		if (typeof val === 'function' && (val as any)[isComputedMethodKey]) {
+			val.call(obj)
+		}
+
 		inst = obj[key as keyof typeof obj] as _Computed<Obj[Prop]> | undefined
 	}
 	return inst as any
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/EffectScheduler.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/EffectScheduler.test.ts
index c9af538da..aed2d6b7f 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/EffectScheduler.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/EffectScheduler.test.ts
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ describe(EffectScheduler, () => {
 		const a = atom('a', 1)
 		let numReactions = 0
 		const scheduler = new EffectScheduler('test', () => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 			numReactions++
 		})
 		scheduler.attach()
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ describe(EffectScheduler, () => {
 		const a = atom('a', 1)
 		let numReactions = 0
 		const scheduler = new EffectScheduler('test', () => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 			numReactions++
 		})
 		scheduler.attach()
@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ describe(EffectScheduler, () => {
 		const scheduler = new EffectScheduler(
 			'test',
 			() => {
-				a.value
+				a.get()
 				numReactions++
 			},
 			{
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/atom.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/atom.test.ts
index 0c0ad8499..424f64f38 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/atom.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/atom.test.ts
@@ -7,14 +7,14 @@ describe('atoms', () => {
 	it('contain data', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(a.get()).toBe(1)
 	})
 	it('can be updated', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
 		a.set(2)
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(a.get()).toBe(2)
 	})
 	it('will not advance the global epoch on creation', () => {
 		const startEpoch = globalEpoch
@@ -115,7 +115,7 @@ describe('atoms', () => {
 
 		a.update((value) => value + 1)
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(a.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(globalEpoch).toBe(startEpoch + 1)
 	})
 	it('supports passing diffs in .set', () => {
@@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ describe('reacting to atoms', () => {
 
 		let val = 0
 		const r = reactor('', () => {
-			val = a.value
+			val = a.get()
 		})
 
 		expect(val).toBe(0)
@@ -177,7 +177,7 @@ describe('reacting to atoms', () => {
 		a.set(2342)
 
 		expect(val).toBe(939)
-		expect(a.value).toBe(2342)
+		expect(a.get()).toBe(2342)
 	})
 })
 
@@ -189,11 +189,11 @@ test('isEqual can provide custom equality checks', () => {
 
 	a.set(bar)
 
-	expect(a.value).toBe(bar)
+	expect(a.get()).toBe(bar)
 
 	const b = atom('b', foo, { isEqual: (a, b) => a.hello === b.hello })
 
 	b.set(bar)
 
-	expect(b.value).toBe(foo)
+	expect(b.get()).toBe(foo)
 })
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/capture.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/capture.test.ts
index a95ff0ed7..6c463fb77 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/capture.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/capture.test.ts
@@ -172,7 +172,7 @@ describe(unsafe__withoutCapture, () => {
 		const atomC = atom('c', 1)
 
 		const child = computed('', () => {
-			return atomA.value + atomB.value + unsafe__withoutCapture(() => atomC.value)
+			return atomA.get() + atomB.get() + unsafe__withoutCapture(() => atomC.get())
 		})
 
 		let lastValue: number | undefined
@@ -180,7 +180,7 @@ describe(unsafe__withoutCapture, () => {
 
 		react('', () => {
 			numReactions++
-			lastValue = child.value
+			lastValue = child.get()
 		})
 
 		expect(lastValue).toBe(3)
@@ -213,7 +213,7 @@ describe(unsafe__withoutCapture, () => {
 
 		react('', () => {
 			numReactions++
-			lastValue = atomA.value + atomB.value + unsafe__withoutCapture(() => atomC.value)
+			lastValue = atomA.get() + atomB.get() + unsafe__withoutCapture(() => atomC.get())
 		})
 
 		expect(lastValue).toBe(3)
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/computed.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/computed.test.ts
index 0e2e20636..24e148cb3 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/computed.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/computed.test.ts
@@ -17,9 +17,9 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 
 		expect(derive).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(0)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 
 		expect(derive).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 
@@ -28,13 +28,13 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		advanceGlobalEpoch()
 		advanceGlobalEpoch()
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 		advanceGlobalEpoch()
 		advanceGlobalEpoch()
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 
 		expect(derive).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 
@@ -45,18 +45,18 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 
 	it('will update when parent atoms update', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
-		const double = jest.fn(() => a.value * 2)
+		const double = jest.fn(() => a.get() * 2)
 		const derivation = computed('', double)
 		const startEpoch = globalEpoch
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(0)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(startEpoch)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(startEpoch)
 
@@ -66,12 +66,12 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(startEpoch)
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(4)
 
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(nextEpoch)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(nextEpoch)
 
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		unrelatedAtom.set(3)
 		unrelatedAtom.set(5)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBe(nextEpoch)
 	})
@@ -90,14 +90,14 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const startEpoch = globalEpoch
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
-		const derivation = computed('', () => a.value * 2, {
+		const derivation = computed('', () => a.get() * 2, {
 			historyLength: 3,
 			computeDiff: (a, b) => {
 				return b - a
 			},
 		})
 
-		derivation.value
+		derivation.get()
 
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toHaveLength(0)
 
@@ -123,37 +123,37 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
 		const floor = jest.fn((n: number) => Math.floor(n))
-		const derivation = computed('', () => floor(a.value), {
+		const derivation = computed('', () => floor(a.get()), {
 			historyLength: 3,
 			computeDiff: (a, b) => {
 				return b - a
 			},
 		})
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toHaveLength(0)
 
 		a.set(1.2)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toHaveLength(0)
 		expect(floor).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
 
 		a.set(1.5)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toHaveLength(0)
 		expect(floor).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(3)
 
 		a.set(1.9)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(1)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(1)
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toHaveLength(0)
 		expect(floor).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(4)
 
 		a.set(2.3)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(derivation.getDiffSince(startEpoch)).toEqual([+1])
 		expect(floor).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(5)
 	})
@@ -162,15 +162,15 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const startEpoch = globalEpoch
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
-		const double = jest.fn(() => a.value * 2)
+		const double = jest.fn(() => a.get() * 2)
 		const derivation = computed('', double)
 
-		derivation.value
+		derivation.get()
 
 		expect(getLastCheckedEpoch(derivation)).toEqual(startEpoch)
 
 		advanceGlobalEpoch()
-		derivation.value
+		derivation.get()
 
 		expect(getLastCheckedEpoch(derivation)).toBeGreaterThan(startEpoch)
 
@@ -179,16 +179,16 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 
 	it('receives UNINTIALIZED as the previousValue the first time it computes', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
-		const double = jest.fn((_prevValue) => a.value * 2)
+		const double = jest.fn((_prevValue) => a.get() * 2)
 		const derivation = computed('', double)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
 
 		expect(isUninitialized(double.mock.calls[0][0])).toBe(true)
 
 		a.set(2)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(isUninitialized(double.mock.calls[1][0])).toBe(false)
 		expect(double.mock.calls[1][0]).toBe(2)
 	})
@@ -197,17 +197,17 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const double = jest.fn((_prevValue, lastChangedEpoch) => {
 			expect(lastChangedEpoch).toBe(derivation.lastChangedEpoch)
-			return a.value * 2
+			return a.get() * 2
 		})
 		const derivation = computed('', double)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(2)
 
 		const startEpoch = globalEpoch
 
 		a.set(2)
 
-		expect(derivation.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(derivation.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(derivation.lastChangedEpoch).toBeGreaterThan(startEpoch)
 
 		expect(double).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(2)
@@ -221,13 +221,13 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		let numTimesComputed = 0
 		const fullName = computed('', () => {
 			numTimesComputed++
-			return `${firstName.value} ${lastName.value}`
+			return `${firstName.get()} ${lastName.get()}`
 		})
 
 		let numTimesReacted = 0
 		let name = ''
 		const r = reactor('', () => {
-			name = fullName.value
+			name = fullName.get()
 			numTimesReacted++
 		})
 
@@ -263,7 +263,7 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 			expect(numTimesComputed).toBe(2)
 			expect(numTimesReacted).toBe(2)
 			expect(name).toBe('Jane Doe')
-			expect(fullName.value).toBe('Wilbur Jones')
+			expect(fullName.get()).toBe('Wilbur Jones')
 
 			expect(numTimesComputed).toBe(3)
 			expect(numTimesReacted).toBe(2)
@@ -279,23 +279,23 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const firstName = atom('', 'John')
 		const lastName = atom('', 'Doe')
 
-		const fullName = computed('', () => `${firstName.value} ${lastName.value}`)
+		const fullName = computed('', () => `${firstName.get()} ${lastName.get()}`)
 
 		transaction((rollback) => {
 			firstName.set('Jane')
 			lastName.set('Jones')
-			expect(fullName.value).toBe('Jane Jones')
+			expect(fullName.get()).toBe('Jane Jones')
 			rollback()
 		})
 
-		expect(fullName.value).toBe('John Doe')
+		expect(fullName.get()).toBe('John Doe')
 	})
 
 	it('will add history items if a transaction is aborted', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const b = atom('', 1)
 
-		const c = computed('', () => a.value + b.value, {
+		const c = computed('', () => a.get() + b.get(), {
 			historyLength: 3,
 			computeDiff: (a, b) => b - a,
 		})
@@ -317,7 +317,7 @@ describe('derivations', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const b = atom('', 1)
 
-		const c = computed('', () => a.value + b.value, {
+		const c = computed('', () => a.get() + b.get(), {
 			historyLength: 3,
 			computeDiff: (a, b) => b - a,
 		})
@@ -341,7 +341,7 @@ function getIncrementalRecordMapper<In, Out>(
 	mapper: (t: In, k: string) => Out
 ): Computed<Record<string, Out>> {
 	function computeFromScratch() {
-		const input = obj.value
+		const input = obj.get()
 		return Object.fromEntries(Object.entries(input).map(([k, v]) => [k, mapper(v, k)]))
 	}
 	return computed('', (previousValue, lastComputedEpoch) => {
@@ -356,7 +356,7 @@ function getIncrementalRecordMapper<In, Out>(
 			return previousValue
 		}
 
-		const newUpstream = obj.value
+		const newUpstream = obj.get()
 
 		const result = { ...previousValue } as Record<string, Out>
 
@@ -442,7 +442,7 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 
 		const doubledNodes = getIncrementalRecordMapper(nodes, mapper)
 
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 2,
 			b: 4,
 			c: 6,
@@ -453,7 +453,7 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 
 		nodes.update((ns) => ({ ...ns, a: 10 }))
 
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 20,
 			b: 4,
 			c: 6,
@@ -466,7 +466,7 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 		// remove d
 		nodes.update(({ d: _d, ...others }) => others)
 
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 20,
 			b: 4,
 			c: 6,
@@ -476,7 +476,7 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 
 		nodes.update((ns) => ({ ...ns, f: 50, g: 60 }))
 
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 20,
 			b: 4,
 			c: 6,
@@ -486,9 +486,9 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 		})
 		expect(mapper).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(8)
 
-		nodes.set({ ...nodes.value })
+		nodes.set({ ...nodes.get() })
 		// no changes so no new calls to mapper
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 20,
 			b: 4,
 			c: 6,
@@ -510,7 +510,7 @@ describe('incremental derivations', () => {
 		// nothing was called because we didn't deref yet
 		expect(mapper).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(8)
 
-		expect(doubledNodes.value).toEqual({
+		expect(doubledNodes.get()).toEqual({
 			a: 8,
 			b: 18,
 			c: 34,
@@ -527,18 +527,18 @@ describe('computed as a decorator', () => {
 		class Foo {
 			a = atom('a', 1)
 			@computed
-			get b() {
-				return this.a.value * 2
+			getB() {
+				return this.a.get() * 2
 			}
 		}
 
 		const foo = new Foo()
 
-		expect(foo.b).toBe(2)
+		expect(foo.getB()).toBe(2)
 
 		foo.a.set(2)
 
-		expect(foo.b).toBe(4)
+		expect(foo.getB()).toBe(4)
 	})
 
 	it('can be used to decorate a class with custom properties', () => {
@@ -547,20 +547,20 @@ describe('computed as a decorator', () => {
 			a = atom('a', 1)
 
 			@computed({ isEqual: (a, b) => a.b === b.b })
-			get b() {
+			getB() {
 				numComputations++
-				return { b: this.a.value * this.a.value }
+				return { b: this.a.get() * this.a.get() }
 			}
 		}
 
 		const foo = new Foo()
 
-		const firstVal = foo.b
+		const firstVal = foo.getB()
 		expect(firstVal).toEqual({ b: 1 })
 
 		foo.a.set(-1)
 
-		const secondVal = foo.b
+		const secondVal = foo.getB()
 		expect(secondVal).toEqual({ b: 1 })
 
 		expect(firstVal).toBe(secondVal)
@@ -574,14 +574,14 @@ describe(getComputedInstance, () => {
 			a = atom('a', 1)
 
 			@computed({ isEqual: (a, b) => a.b === b.b })
-			get b() {
-				return { b: this.a.value * this.a.value }
+			getB() {
+				return { b: this.a.get() * this.a.get() }
 			}
 		}
 
 		const foo = new Foo()
 
-		const bInst = getComputedInstance(foo, 'b')
+		const bInst = getComputedInstance(foo, 'getB')
 
 		expect(bInst).toBeDefined()
 		expect(bInst).toBeInstanceOf(_Computed)
@@ -593,18 +593,18 @@ describe('computed isEqual', () => {
 		const isEqual = jest.fn((a, b) => a === b)
 
 		const a = atom('a', 1)
-		const b = computed('b', () => a.value * 2, { isEqual })
+		const b = computed('b', () => a.get() * 2, { isEqual })
 
-		expect(b.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(b.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(isEqual).not.toHaveBeenCalled()
-		expect(b.value).toBe(2)
+		expect(b.get()).toBe(2)
 		expect(isEqual).not.toHaveBeenCalled()
 
 		a.set(2)
 
-		expect(b.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(b.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(isEqual).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
-		expect(b.value).toBe(4)
+		expect(b.get()).toBe(4)
 		expect(isEqual).toHaveBeenCalledTimes(1)
 	})
 })
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/fuzz.tlstate.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/fuzz.tlstate.test.ts
index 195351ebe..540d51982 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/fuzz.tlstate.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/fuzz.tlstate.test.ts
@@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ type Letter = (typeof LETTERS)[number]
 
 const unpack = (value: unknown): Letter => {
 	if (isComputed(value) || isAtom(value)) {
-		return unpack(value.value) as Letter
+		return unpack(value.get()) as Letter
 	}
 	return value as Letter
 }
@@ -307,15 +307,15 @@ class Test {
 				break
 			}
 			case 'deref_atom_in_derivation': {
-				this.systemState.atomsInDerivations[op.id].value
+				this.systemState.atomsInDerivations[op.id].get()
 				break
 			}
 			case 'deref_derivation': {
-				this.systemState.derivations[op.id].derivation.value
+				this.systemState.derivations[op.id].derivation.get()
 				break
 			}
 			case 'deref_derivation_in_derivation': {
-				this.systemState.derivationsInDerivations[op.id].value
+				this.systemState.derivationsInDerivations[op.id].get()
 				break
 			}
 			case 'update_atom_in_atom': {
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/reactor.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/reactor.test.ts
index bd6e62416..e2fef937e 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/reactor.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/reactor.test.ts
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ describe('reactors', () => {
 	it('can be started and stopped ', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const r = reactor('', () => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 		})
 		expect(r.scheduler.isActivelyListening).toBe(false)
 		r.start()
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ describe('reactors', () => {
 	it('can not set atom values directly yet', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const r = reactor('', () => {
-			if (a.value < +Infinity) {
+			if (a.get() < +Infinity) {
 				a.update((a) => a + 1)
 			}
 		})
@@ -34,8 +34,8 @@ describe('reactors', () => {
 		const atomB = atom('', 1)
 
 		const react = jest.fn(() => {
-			atomA.value
-			atomB.value
+			atomA.get()
+			atomB.get()
 		})
 		const r = reactor('', react)
 
@@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ describe('reactors', () => {
 	it('will not react if stopped', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const react = jest.fn(() => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 		})
 		const r = reactor('', react)
 
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ describe('reactors', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 		const react = jest
 			.fn(() => {
-				a.value
+				a.get()
 			})
 			.mockName('react')
 		const r = reactor('', react)
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ describe('stopping', () => {
 		const a = atom('', 1)
 
 		const rfn = jest.fn(() => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 		})
 		const r = reactor('', rfn)
 
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ test('.start() by default does not trigger a reaction if nothing has changed', (
 	const a = atom('', 1)
 
 	const rfn = jest.fn(() => {
-		a.value
+		a.get()
 	})
 
 	const r = reactor('', rfn)
@@ -139,7 +139,7 @@ test('.start({force: true}) will trigger a reaction even if nothing has changed'
 	const a = atom('', 1)
 
 	const rfn = jest.fn(() => {
-		a.value
+		a.get()
 	})
 
 	const r = reactor('', rfn)
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/transactions.test.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/transactions.test.ts
index b3d672d58..0b922d3e0 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/transactions.test.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/__tests__/transactions.test.ts
@@ -11,14 +11,14 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 		let numTimesComputed = 0
 		const fullName = computed('', () => {
 			numTimesComputed++
-			return `${firstName.value} ${lastName.value}`
+			return `${firstName.get()} ${lastName.get()}`
 		})
 
 		let numTimesReacted = 0
 		let name = ''
 
 		react('', () => {
-			name = fullName.value
+			name = fullName.get()
 			numTimesReacted++
 		})
 
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			expect(numTimesComputed).toBe(1)
 			expect(numTimesReacted).toBe(1)
 			expect(name).toBe('John Doe')
-			expect(fullName.value).toBe('Wilbur Jones')
+			expect(fullName.get()).toBe('Wilbur Jones')
 
 			expect(numTimesComputed).toBe(2)
 			expect(numTimesReacted).toBe(1)
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 		expect(numTimesComputed).toBe(3)
 		expect(numTimesReacted).toBe(2)
 
-		expect(fullName.value).toBe('John Doe')
+		expect(fullName.get()).toBe('John Doe')
 		expect(name).toBe('John Doe')
 	})
 
@@ -72,8 +72,8 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			rollback()
 		})
 
-		expect(atomA.value).toBe(0)
-		expect(atomB.value).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomA.get()).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomB.get()).toBe(0)
 
 		transaction((rollback) => {
 			atomA.set(1)
@@ -90,8 +90,8 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			rollback()
 		})
 
-		expect(atomA.value).toBe(0)
-		expect(atomB.value).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomA.get()).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomB.get()).toBe(0)
 
 		transaction((rollback) => {
 			atomA.set(1)
@@ -107,8 +107,8 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			rollback()
 		})
 
-		expect(atomA.value).toBe(0)
-		expect(atomB.value).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomA.get()).toBe(0)
+		expect(atomB.get()).toBe(0)
 
 		transaction(() => {
 			atomA.set(1)
@@ -125,8 +125,8 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			})
 		})
 
-		expect(atomA.value).toBe(1)
-		expect(atomB.value).toBe(-1)
+		expect(atomA.get()).toBe(1)
+		expect(atomB.get()).toBe(-1)
 
 		transaction(() => {
 			atomA.set(1)
@@ -142,8 +142,8 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			})
 		})
 
-		expect(atomA.value).toBe(2)
-		expect(atomB.value).toBe(-2)
+		expect(atomA.get()).toBe(2)
+		expect(atomB.get()).toBe(-2)
 	})
 
 	it('should restore the original even if an inner commits', () => {
@@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ describe('transactions', () => {
 			rollback()
 		})
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe('a')
+		expect(a.get()).toBe('a')
 	})
 })
 
@@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ describe('transact', () => {
 			expect(e.message).toBe('blah')
 		}
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe('a')
+		expect(a.get()).toBe('a')
 
 		expect.assertions(2)
 	})
@@ -192,10 +192,10 @@ describe('transact', () => {
 			} catch (e: any) {
 				expect(e.message).toBe('blah')
 			}
-			expect(a.value).toBe('c')
+			expect(a.get()).toBe('c')
 		})
 
-		expect(a.value).toBe('c')
+		expect(a.get()).toBe('c')
 
 		expect.assertions(3)
 	})
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/types.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/types.ts
index 2b0ef7605..d95a3631c 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/core/types.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/types.ts
@@ -28,7 +28,11 @@ export interface Signal<Value, Diff = unknown> {
 	 * Any computed signal that depends on this signal will be lazily recomputed if this signal changes.
 	 * Any effect that depends on this signal will be rescheduled if this signal changes.
 	 */
-	readonly value: Value
+	get(): Value
+	/**
+	 * @deprecated Use [[Signal.get]] instead.
+	 */
+	value: Value
 	/**
 	 * The epoch when this signal's value last changed. Note tha this is not the same as when the value was last computed.
 	 * A signal may recopmute it's value without changing it.
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/core/warnings.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/core/warnings.ts
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..18f135c9d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/core/warnings.ts
@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+let didWarnDotValue = false
+const isDev = typeof process !== 'undefined' && process.env?.NODE_ENV === 'development'
+const isProd = !isDev
+
+// remove this once we've removed all getters from our app
+const ROLLOUT_OVERRIDE_REMOVE_ME = true
+
+export function logDotValueWarning() {
+	if (ROLLOUT_OVERRIDE_REMOVE_ME) return
+	if (isProd) return
+	if (didWarnDotValue) return
+	didWarnDotValue = true
+	console.warn(
+		'Using Signal.value is deprecated and will be removed in the near future. Please use Signal.get() instead.'
+	)
+}
+
+let didWarnComputedGetter = false
+
+export function logComputedGetterWarning() {
+	if (ROLLOUT_OVERRIDE_REMOVE_ME) return
+	if (isProd) return
+	if (didWarnComputedGetter) return
+	didWarnComputedGetter = true
+	console.warn(
+		`Using \`@computed\` as a decorator for getters is deprecated and will be removed in the near future. Please refactor to use \`@computed\` as a decorator for methods.
+
+// Before
+@computed
+get foo() {
+	return 'foo'
+}
+
+// After
+@computed
+getFoo() {
+	return 'foo'
+}
+`
+	)
+}
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/track.test.tsx b/packages/state/src/lib/react/track.test.tsx
index f6011656a..481f177c4 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/track.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/track.test.tsx
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ test('tracked components update when the state they refernce updates', async ()
 	const a = atom('a', 1)
 
 	const C = track(function Component() {
-		return <>{a.value}</>
+		return <>{a.get()}</>
 	})
 
 	let view: ReactTestRenderer
@@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ test('things referenced in effects do not trigger updates', async () => {
 	const Component = track(function Component() {
 		numRenders++
 		useEffect(() => {
-			a.value
+			a.get()
 		}, [])
 		return <>hi</>
 	})
@@ -185,7 +185,7 @@ test('things referenced in effects do not trigger updates', async () => {
 test("tracked zombie-children don't throw", async () => {
 	const theAtom = atom<Record<string, number>>('map', { a: 1, b: 2, c: 3 })
 	const Parent = track(function Parent() {
-		const ids = Object.keys(theAtom.value)
+		const ids = Object.keys(theAtom.get())
 		return (
 			<>
 				{ids.map((id) => (
@@ -195,8 +195,8 @@ test("tracked zombie-children don't throw", async () => {
 		)
 	})
 	const Child = track(function Child({ id }: { id: string }) {
-		if (!(id in theAtom.value)) throw new Error('id not found!')
-		const value = theAtom.value[id]
+		if (!(id in theAtom.get())) throw new Error('id not found!')
+		const value = theAtom.get()[id]
 		return <>{value}</>
 	})
 
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useAtom.test.tsx b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useAtom.test.tsx
index 795df8122..8521804d2 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useAtom.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useAtom.test.tsx
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ test('useAtom returns an atom', async () => {
 	})
 
 	expect(theAtom).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theAtom?.value).toBe('a')
+	expect(theAtom?.get()).toBe('a')
 	expect(theAtom?.name).toBe('useAtom(myAtom)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"a"`)
 
@@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ test('useAtom supports taking an initializer', async () => {
 	})
 
 	expect(theAtom).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theAtom?.value).toBe('a')
+	expect(theAtom?.get()).toBe('a')
 
 	expect(theAtom?.name).toBe('useAtom(myAtom)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"a"`)
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useComputed.test.tsx b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useComputed.test.tsx
index 4c72fcbcf..d9aba5d17 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useComputed.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useComputed.test.tsx
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ test('useComputed returns a computed value', async () => {
 	function Component() {
 		const a = useAtom('a', 1)
 		theAtom = a
-		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.value + 1, [])
+		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.get() + 1, [])
 		theComputed = b
 		return <>{useValue(b)}</>
 	}
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ test('useComputed returns a computed value', async () => {
 	})
 
 	expect(theComputed).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theComputed?.value).toBe(2)
+	expect(theComputed?.get()).toBe(2)
 	expect(theComputed?.name).toBe('useComputed(a+1)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"2"`)
 
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ test('useComputed has a dependencies array that allows creating a new computed',
 		setCount = _setCount
 		const a = useAtom('a', 1)
 		theAtom = a
-		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.value + 1, [count])
+		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.get() + 1, [count])
 		theComputed = b
 		return <>{useValue(b)}</>
 	}
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ test('useComputed has a dependencies array that allows creating a new computed',
 	const initialComputed = theComputed
 
 	expect(theComputed).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theComputed?.value).toBe(2)
+	expect(theComputed?.get()).toBe(2)
 	expect(theComputed?.name).toBe('useComputed(a+1)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"2"`)
 
@@ -83,7 +83,7 @@ test('useComputed allows optionally passing options', async () => {
 		setCount = _setCount
 		const a = useAtom('a', 1)
 		theAtom = a
-		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.value + 1, { isEqual }, [count])
+		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.get() + 1, { isEqual }, [count])
 		theComputed = b
 		return <>{useValue(b)}</>
 	}
@@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ test('useComputed allows optionally passing options', async () => {
 	const initialComputed = theComputed
 
 	expect(theComputed).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theComputed?.value).toBe(2)
+	expect(theComputed?.get()).toBe(2)
 	expect(theComputed?.name).toBe('useComputed(a+1)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"2"`)
 
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useStateTracking.test.tsx b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useStateTracking.test.tsx
index 359735de4..9915938ac 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useStateTracking.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useStateTracking.test.tsx
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ describe('useStateTracking', () => {
 
 		const Component = () => {
 			const val = useStateTracking('', () => {
-				return a.value
+				return a.get()
 			})
 			return <>You are {val} years old</>
 		}
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ describe('useStateTracking', () => {
 			const age = useStateTracking('', () => {
 				// eslint-disable-next-line react-hooks/rules-of-hooks
 				;[height, setHeight] = React.useState(20)
-				return _age.value
+				return _age.get()
 			})
 			return (
 				<>
@@ -110,12 +110,12 @@ describe('useStateTracking', () => {
 
 		const Component = () => {
 			const val = useStateTracking('', () => {
-				if (a.value === null) {
+				if (a.get() === null) {
 					throw new Promise<string>((r) => {
 						resolve = r
 					})
 				}
-				return a.value
+				return a.get()
 			})
 			return <>You are {val} years old</>
 		}
@@ -156,7 +156,7 @@ describe('useStateTracking', () => {
 		const Component = () => {
 			const val = useStateTracking('', () => {
 				numRenders++
-				return a.value
+				return a.get()
 			})
 			return <>You are {val} years old</>
 		}
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.test.tsx b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.test.tsx
index d5d7d71df..62d50d015 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.test.tsx
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ test('useValue returns a value from a computed', async () => {
 	function Component() {
 		const a = useAtom('a', 1)
 		theAtom = a
-		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.value + 1, [])
+		const b = useComputed('a+1', () => a.get() + 1, [])
 		theComputed = b
 		return <>{useValue(b)}</>
 	}
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ test('useValue returns a value from a computed', async () => {
 	})
 
 	expect(theComputed).not.toBeNull()
-	expect(theComputed?.value).toBe(2)
+	expect(theComputed?.get()).toBe(2)
 	expect(theComputed?.name).toBe('useComputed(a+1)')
 	expect(view!.toJSON()).toMatchInlineSnapshot(`"2"`)
 
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ test('useValue returns a value from a compute function', async () => {
 		const [b, _setB] = useState(1)
 		setB = _setB
 		theAtom = a
-		const c = useValue('a+b', () => a.value + b, [b])
+		const c = useValue('a+b', () => a.get() + b, [b])
 		return <>{c}</>
 	}
 
@@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ test('useValue returns a value from a compute function', async () => {
 test("useValue doesn't throw when used in a zombie-child component", async () => {
 	const theAtom = atom<Record<string, number>>('map', { a: 1, b: 2, c: 3 })
 	function Parent() {
-		const ids = useValue('ids', () => Object.keys(theAtom.value), [])
+		const ids = useValue('ids', () => Object.keys(theAtom.get()), [])
 		return (
 			<>
 				{ids.map((id) => (
@@ -100,8 +100,8 @@ test("useValue doesn't throw when used in a zombie-child component", async () =>
 		const value = useValue(
 			'value',
 			() => {
-				if (!(id in theAtom.value)) throw new Error('id not found!')
-				return theAtom.value[id]
+				if (!(id in theAtom.get())) throw new Error('id not found!')
+				return theAtom.get()[id]
 			},
 			[id]
 		)
diff --git a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.ts b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.ts
index d2018958e..c9573814f 100644
--- a/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.ts
+++ b/packages/state/src/lib/react/useValue.ts
@@ -82,11 +82,11 @@ export function useValue() {
 			return {
 				subscribe: (listen: () => void) => {
 					return react(`useValue(${name})`, () => {
-						$val.value
+						$val.get()
 						listen()
 					})
 				},
-				getSnapshot: () => $val.value,
+				getSnapshot: () => $val.get(),
 			}
 			// eslint-disable-next-line react-hooks/exhaustive-deps
 		}, [$val])
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/Store.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/Store.ts
index 7aca636e1..e715420f7 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/Store.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/Store.ts
@@ -197,7 +197,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 			'Store.historyReactor',
 			() => {
 				// deref to make sure we're subscribed regardless of whether we need to propagate
-				this.history.value
+				this.history.get()
 				// If we have accumulated history, flush it and update listeners
 				this._flushHistory()
 			},
@@ -290,7 +290,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 		if (this.listeners.size === 0) {
 			this.historyAccumulator.clear()
 		}
-		this.history.set(this.history.value + 1, changes)
+		this.history.set(this.history.get() + 1, changes)
 	}
 
 	validate(phase: 'initialize' | 'createRecord' | 'updateRecord' | 'tests') {
@@ -379,7 +379,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 				const recordAtom = (map ?? currentMap)[record.id as IdOf<R>]
 
 				if (recordAtom) {
-					if (beforeUpdate) record = beforeUpdate(recordAtom.value, record, source)
+					if (beforeUpdate) record = beforeUpdate(recordAtom.get(), record, source)
 
 					// If we already have an atom for this record, update its value.
 
@@ -478,7 +478,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 					const atom = this.atoms.__unsafe__getWithoutCapture()[id]
 					if (!atom) continue
 
-					if (this.onBeforeDelete(atom.value, source) === false) {
+					if (this.onBeforeDelete(atom.get(), source) === false) {
 						cancelled.push(id)
 					}
 				}
@@ -496,7 +496,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 					if (!result) result = { ...atoms }
 					if (!removed) removed = {} as Record<IdOf<R>, R>
 					delete result[id]
-					removed[id] = atoms[id].value
+					removed[id] = atoms[id].get()
 				}
 
 				return result ?? atoms
@@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	get = <K extends IdOf<R>>(id: K): RecFromId<K> | undefined => {
-		return this.atoms.value[id]?.value as any
+		return this.atoms.get()[id]?.get() as any
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -536,7 +536,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	unsafeGetWithoutCapture = <K extends IdOf<R>>(id: K): RecFromId<K> | undefined => {
-		return this.atoms.value[id]?.__unsafe__getWithoutCapture() as any
+		return this.atoms.get()[id]?.__unsafe__getWithoutCapture() as any
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -547,8 +547,8 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 */
 	serialize = (scope: RecordScope | 'all' = 'document'): SerializedStore<R> => {
 		const result = {} as SerializedStore<R>
-		for (const [id, atom] of objectMapEntries(this.atoms.value)) {
-			const record = atom.value
+		for (const [id, atom] of objectMapEntries(this.atoms.get())) {
+			const record = atom.get()
 			if (scope === 'all' || this.scopedTypes[scope].has(record.typeName)) {
 				result[id as IdOf<R>] = record
 			}
@@ -631,7 +631,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	allRecords = (): R[] => {
-		return objectMapValues(this.atoms.value).map((atom) => atom.value)
+		return objectMapValues(this.atoms.get()).map((atom) => atom.get())
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -640,7 +640,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	clear = (): void => {
-		this.remove(objectMapKeys(this.atoms.value))
+		this.remove(objectMapKeys(this.atoms.get()))
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -651,7 +651,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @param updater - A function that updates the record.
 	 */
 	update = <K extends IdOf<R>>(id: K, updater: (record: RecFromId<K>) => RecFromId<K>) => {
-		const atom = this.atoms.value[id]
+		const atom = this.atoms.get()[id]
 		if (!atom) {
 			console.error(`Record ${id} not found. This is probably an error`)
 			return
@@ -667,7 +667,7 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 	 * @public
 	 */
 	has = <K extends IdOf<R>>(id: K): boolean => {
-		return !!this.atoms.value[id]
+		return !!this.atoms.get()[id]
 	}
 
 	/**
@@ -772,18 +772,20 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 		const cache = new Cache<Atom<any>, Computed<T | undefined>>()
 		return {
 			get: (id: IdOf<V>) => {
-				const atom = this.atoms.value[id]
+				const atom = this.atoms.get()[id]
 				if (!atom) {
 					return undefined
 				}
-				return cache.get(atom, () => {
-					const recordSignal = isEqual
-						? computed(atom.name + ':equals', () => atom.value, { isEqual })
-						: atom
-					return computed<T | undefined>(name + ':' + id, () => {
-						return derive(recordSignal.value as V)
+				return cache
+					.get(atom, () => {
+						const recordSignal = isEqual
+							? computed(atom.name + ':equals', () => atom.get(), { isEqual })
+							: atom
+						return computed<T | undefined>(name + ':' + id, () => {
+							return derive(recordSignal.get() as V)
+						})
 					})
-				}).value
+					.get()
 			},
 		}
 	}
@@ -804,17 +806,17 @@ export class Store<R extends UnknownRecord = UnknownRecord, Props = unknown> {
 		const cache = new Cache<Atom<any>, Computed<J | undefined>>()
 		return {
 			get: (id: IdOf<V>) => {
-				const atom = this.atoms.value[id]
+				const atom = this.atoms.get()[id]
 				if (!atom) {
 					return undefined
 				}
 
 				const d = computed<T | undefined>(name + ':' + id + ':selector', () =>
-					selector(atom.value as V)
+					selector(atom.get() as V)
 				)
-				return cache.get(atom, () =>
-					computed<J | undefined>(name + ':' + id, () => derive(d.value as T))
-				).value
+				return cache
+					.get(atom, () => computed<J | undefined>(name + ':' + id, () => derive(d.get() as T)))
+					.get()
 			},
 		}
 	}
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/StoreQueries.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/StoreQueries.ts
index 1196ae6ac..82e760994 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/StoreQueries.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/StoreQueries.ts
@@ -74,11 +74,11 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 			'filterHistory:' + typeName,
 			(lastValue, lastComputedEpoch) => {
 				if (isUninitialized(lastValue)) {
-					return this.history.value
+					return this.history.get()
 				}
 
 				const diff = this.history.getDiffSince(lastComputedEpoch)
-				if (diff === RESET_VALUE) return this.history.value
+				if (diff === RESET_VALUE) return this.history.get()
 
 				const res = { added: {}, removed: {}, updated: {} } as RecordsDiff<S>
 				let numAdded = 0
@@ -137,7 +137,7 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 				}
 
 				if (numAdded || numRemoved || numUpdated) {
-					return withDiff(this.history.value, res)
+					return withDiff(this.history.get(), res)
 				} else {
 					return lastValue
 				}
@@ -192,10 +192,10 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 		const fromScratch = () => {
 			// deref typeHistory early so that the first time the incremental version runs
 			// it gets a diff to work with instead of having to bail to this from-scratch version
-			typeHistory.value
+			typeHistory.get()
 			const res = new Map<S[Property], Set<IdOf<S>>>()
-			for (const atom of objectMapValues(this.atoms.value)) {
-				const record = atom.value
+			for (const atom of objectMapValues(this.atoms.get())) {
+				const record = atom.get()
 				if (record.typeName === typeName) {
 					const value = (record as S)[property]
 					if (!res.has(value)) {
@@ -306,8 +306,8 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 		const ids = this.ids(typeName, queryCreator, name)
 
 		return computed<S | undefined>(name, () => {
-			for (const id of ids.value) {
-				return this.atoms.value[id]?.value as S
+			for (const id of ids.get()) {
+				return this.atoms.get()[id]?.get() as S
 			}
 			return undefined
 		})
@@ -329,12 +329,12 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 		const ids = this.ids(typeName, queryCreator, 'ids:' + name)
 
 		return computed<S[]>(name, () => {
-			return [...ids.value].map((id) => {
-				const atom = this.atoms.value[id]
+			return [...ids.get()].map((id) => {
+				const atom = this.atoms.get()[id]
 				if (!atom) {
 					throw new Error('no atom found for record id: ' + id)
 				}
-				return atom.value as S
+				return atom.get() as S
 			})
 		})
 	}
@@ -360,12 +360,12 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 
 		const fromScratch = () => {
 			// deref type history early to allow first incremental update to use diffs
-			typeHistory.value
+			typeHistory.get()
 			const query: QueryExpression<S> = queryCreator()
 			if (Object.keys(query).length === 0) {
 				return new Set<IdOf<S>>(
-					objectMapValues(this.atoms.value).flatMap((v) => {
-						const r = v.value
+					objectMapValues(this.atoms.get()).flatMap((v) => {
+						const r = v.get()
 						if (r.typeName === typeName) {
 							return r.id
 						} else {
@@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 		return computed(
 			'query:' + name,
 			(prevValue, lastComputedEpoch) => {
-				const query = cachedQuery.value
+				const query = cachedQuery.get()
 				if (isUninitialized(prevValue)) {
 					return fromScratch()
 				}
@@ -455,7 +455,7 @@ export class StoreQueries<R extends UnknownRecord> {
 		if (ids.size === 0) {
 			return EMPTY_ARRAY
 		}
-		const atoms = this.atoms.value
-		return [...ids].map((id) => atoms[id].value as Extract<R, { typeName: TypeName }>)
+		const atoms = this.atoms.get()
+		return [...ids].map((id) => atoms[id].get() as Extract<R, { typeName: TypeName }>)
 	}
 }
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/executeQuery.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/executeQuery.ts
index e8333fd7e..72b5e9a44 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/executeQuery.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/executeQuery.ts
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ export function executeQuery<R extends UnknownRecord, TypeName extends R['typeNa
 	for (const [k, matcher] of Object.entries(query)) {
 		if ('eq' in matcher) {
 			const index = store.index(typeName, k as any)
-			const ids = index.value.get(matcher.eq)
+			const ids = index.get().get(matcher.eq)
 			if (ids) {
 				for (const id of ids) {
 					matchIds[k].add(id)
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ export function executeQuery<R extends UnknownRecord, TypeName extends R['typeNa
 			}
 		} else if ('neq' in matcher) {
 			const index = store.index(typeName, k as any)
-			for (const [value, ids] of index.value) {
+			for (const [value, ids] of index.get()) {
 				if (value !== matcher.neq) {
 					for (const id of ids) {
 						matchIds[k].add(id)
@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ export function executeQuery<R extends UnknownRecord, TypeName extends R['typeNa
 			}
 		} else if ('gt' in matcher) {
 			const index = store.index(typeName, k as any)
-			for (const [value, ids] of index.value) {
+			for (const [value, ids] of index.get()) {
 				if (value > matcher.gt) {
 					for (const id of ids) {
 						matchIds[k].add(id)
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStore.test.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStore.test.ts
index 95a96dcd7..798768728 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStore.test.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStore.test.ts
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ describe('Store', () => {
 
 	it('allows records to be added', () => {
 		store.put([Author.create({ name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', id: Author.createId('tolkein') })])
-		expect(store.query.records('author').value).toEqual([
+		expect(store.query.records('author').get()).toEqual([
 			{ id: 'author:tolkein', typeName: 'author', name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', isPseudonym: false },
 		])
 
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ describe('Store', () => {
 			},
 		])
 
-		expect(store.query.records('book').value).toEqual([
+		expect(store.query.records('book').get()).toEqual([
 			{
 				id: 'book:the-hobbit',
 				typeName: 'book',
@@ -217,7 +217,7 @@ describe('Store', () => {
 			expect(current).toEqual(
 				Author.create({ name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', id: Author.createId('tolkein') })
 			)
-			expect([...store.query.ids('author').value]).toEqual([Author.createId('tolkein')])
+			expect([...store.query.ids('author').get()]).toEqual([Author.createId('tolkein')])
 		})
 		store.put([Author.create({ name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', id: Author.createId('tolkein') })])
 
@@ -257,10 +257,16 @@ describe('Store', () => {
 			Author.create({ name: 'Cynan Jones', id: Author.createId('cj') }),
 			Author.create({ name: 'David Foster Wallace', id: Author.createId('dfw') }),
 		])
-		const Js = store.query.records('author').value.filter((r) => r.name.startsWith('J'))
+		const Js = store.query
+			.records('author')
+			.get()
+			.filter((r) => r.name.startsWith('J'))
 		expect(Js.map((j) => j.name).sort()).toEqual(['J.R.R Tolkein', 'James McAvoy'])
 
-		const david = store.query.records('author').value.find((r) => r.name.startsWith('David'))
+		const david = store.query
+			.records('author')
+			.get()
+			.find((r) => r.name.startsWith('David'))
 		expect(david?.name).toBe('David Foster Wallace')
 	})
 
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreFuzzing.test.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreFuzzing.test.ts
index 922e18ab8..9df20feb2 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreFuzzing.test.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreFuzzing.test.ts
@@ -344,7 +344,7 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 	})
 	store.onBeforeDelete = (record) => {
 		if (record.typeName === 'author') {
-			const books = store.query.index('book', 'authorId').value.get(record.id)
+			const books = store.query.index('book', 'authorId').get().get(record.id)
 			if (books) store.remove([...books])
 		}
 	}
@@ -359,16 +359,16 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 	const bookTitleQueryParam = atom('bookTitle', getRandomBookName(getRandomNumber))
 
 	const booksByAuthorQuery = store.query.records('book', () => ({
-		authorId: { eq: authorIdQueryParam.value },
+		authorId: { eq: authorIdQueryParam.get() },
 	}))
 
 	const booksByTitleQuery = store.query.records('book', () => ({
-		title: { eq: bookTitleQueryParam.value },
+		title: { eq: bookTitleQueryParam.get() },
 	}))
 
 	const authorNameQueryParam = atom('authorName', getRandomAuthorName(getRandomNumber))
 	const authorIdsByNameQuery = store.query.ids('author', () => ({
-		name: { neq: authorNameQueryParam.value },
+		name: { neq: authorNameQueryParam.get() },
 	}))
 
 	const ops = []
@@ -384,9 +384,9 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 			const authorNameIndexDiff = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastReactedEpoch)
 			const authorIdIndexDiff = authorIdIndex.getDiffSince(lastReactedEpoch)
 			const authorIdsByNameDiff = authorIdsByNameQuery.getDiffSince(lastReactedEpoch)
-			latestBooksByAuthorQueryResult = booksByAuthorQuery.value
-			latestBooksByTitleQueryResult = booksByTitleQuery.value
-			latestAuthorIdsByNameQueryResult = authorIdsByNameQuery.value
+			latestBooksByAuthorQueryResult = booksByAuthorQuery.get()
+			latestBooksByTitleQueryResult = booksByTitleQuery.get()
+			latestAuthorIdsByNameQueryResult = authorIdsByNameQuery.get()
 			if (
 				authorNameIndexDiff === RESET_VALUE ||
 				authorIdIndexDiff === RESET_VALUE ||
@@ -419,7 +419,7 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 					store.remove([op.id])
 
 					if (op.id === 'book:0.5525377229080933') {
-						store.query.index('book', 'title').value
+						store.query.index('book', 'title').get()
 					}
 					break
 				}
@@ -440,16 +440,14 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 				effect.execute()
 				// these tests create a version of the index from scratch and check it against
 				// the incrementally-updated version to make sure the logic matches.
-				const authorNameIndexFromScratch = store.query.__uncached_createIndex(
-					'author',
-					'name'
-				).value
-				const authorIdIndexFromScratch = store.query.__uncached_createIndex(
-					'book',
-					'authorId'
-				).value
-				expect(authorNameIndex.value).toEqual(authorNameIndexFromScratch)
-				expect(authorIdIndex.value).toEqual(authorIdIndexFromScratch)
+				const authorNameIndexFromScratch = store.query
+					.__uncached_createIndex('author', 'name')
+					.get()
+				const authorIdIndexFromScratch = store.query
+					.__uncached_createIndex('book', 'authorId')
+					.get()
+				expect(authorNameIndex.get()).toEqual(authorNameIndexFromScratch)
+				expect(authorIdIndex.get()).toEqual(authorIdIndexFromScratch)
 				// these tests recreate the index from scratch based on the diffs so far and
 				// check it against the gold standard version to make sure the diff logic matches.
 				expect(recreateIndexFromDiffs(authorNameIndexDiffs)).toEqual(authorNameIndexFromScratch)
@@ -459,36 +457,36 @@ function runTest(seed: number) {
 					store
 						.allRecords()
 						.filter(
-							(r): r is Book => r.typeName === 'book' && r.authorId === authorIdQueryParam.value
+							(r): r is Book => r.typeName === 'book' && r.authorId === authorIdQueryParam.get()
 						)
 						.sort(bookComparator)
 				)
 				expect(new Set(latestBooksByAuthorQueryResult.map((b) => b.id))).toEqual(
-					executeQuery(store.query, 'book', { authorId: { eq: authorIdQueryParam.value } })
+					executeQuery(store.query, 'book', { authorId: { eq: authorIdQueryParam.get() } })
 				)
 				expect(latestBooksByTitleQueryResult.sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
 					store
 						.allRecords()
 						.filter(
-							(r): r is Book => r.typeName === 'book' && r.title === bookTitleQueryParam.value
+							(r): r is Book => r.typeName === 'book' && r.title === bookTitleQueryParam.get()
 						)
 						.sort(bookComparator)
 				)
 				expect(new Set(latestBooksByTitleQueryResult.map((b) => b.id))).toEqual(
-					executeQuery(store.query, 'book', { title: { eq: bookTitleQueryParam.value } })
+					executeQuery(store.query, 'book', { title: { eq: bookTitleQueryParam.get() } })
 				)
 				expect(latestAuthorIdsByNameQueryResult).toEqual(
 					new Set(
 						store
 							.allRecords()
 							.filter(
-								(r): r is Author => r.typeName === 'author' && r.name !== authorNameQueryParam.value
+								(r): r is Author => r.typeName === 'author' && r.name !== authorNameQueryParam.get()
 							)
 							.map((r) => r.id)
 					)
 				)
 				expect(latestAuthorIdsByNameQueryResult).toEqual(
-					executeQuery(store.query, 'author', { name: { neq: authorNameQueryParam.value } })
+					executeQuery(store.query, 'author', { name: { neq: authorNameQueryParam.get() } })
 				)
 				// this test checks that the authorIdsByName set matches what you get when you reassemble it from the diffs
 				expect(reacreateSetFromDiffs(authorIdsByNameDiffs)).toEqual(
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreQueries.test.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreQueries.test.ts
index 59839dfaf..6b573726b 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreQueries.test.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/test/recordStoreQueries.test.ts
@@ -96,27 +96,27 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 	it('can be made on any property', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
 		const bookTitleIndex = store.query.index('book', 'title')
-		expect(bookTitleIndex.value.get('Cloud Atlas')).toEqual(new Set([books.cloudAtlas.id]))
-		expect(bookTitleIndex.value.get('Lord of the Rings')).toEqual(new Set([books.lotr.id]))
+		expect(bookTitleIndex.get().get('Cloud Atlas')).toEqual(new Set([books.cloudAtlas.id]))
+		expect(bookTitleIndex.get().get('Lord of the Rings')).toEqual(new Set([books.lotr.id]))
 	})
 
 	it('can have things added when records are added', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
 		// deref to make it compute once
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 		const newAuthor = Author.create({ name: 'New Author' })
 
 		store.put([newAuthor])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('New Author')).toEqual(new Set([newAuthor.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('New Author')).toEqual(new Set([newAuthor.id]))
 
 		const diff = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 		if (diff === RESET_VALUE) throw new Error('should not be reset')
@@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 		lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 		store.put(moreNewAuthors)
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('New Author')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('New Author')).toEqual(
 			new Set([newAuthor.id, ...moreNewAuthors.map((a) => a.id)])
 		)
 
@@ -150,13 +150,13 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 	it('can have things added when records are updated', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.bradbury, name: 'J.R.R. Tolkein' }])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.tolkein.id, authors.bradbury.id])
 		)
 
@@ -178,7 +178,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 			{ ...authors.davidMitchellSerious, name: 'J.R.R. Tolkein' },
 		])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(
 			new Set([
 				authors.tolkein.id,
 				authors.bradbury.id,
@@ -206,13 +206,13 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 	it('can have things removed when records are removed', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 
 		store.remove([authors.tolkein.id])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(undefined)
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(undefined)
 
 		const diff = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 		if (diff === RESET_VALUE) throw new Error('should not be reset')
@@ -229,8 +229,8 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 			authors.davidMitchellSerious.id,
 		])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(undefined)
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(undefined)
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(undefined)
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(undefined)
 
 		const diff2 = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -250,16 +250,16 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 
 	it('can have things removed when records are updated', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.tolkein, name: 'Ray Bradbury' }])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.tolkein.id, authors.bradbury.id])
 		)
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(undefined)
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(undefined)
 
 		const diff = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 		if (diff === RESET_VALUE) throw new Error('should not be reset')
@@ -279,7 +279,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 			{ ...authors.davidMitchellSerious, name: 'Ray Bradbury' },
 		])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
 			new Set([
 				authors.tolkein.id,
 				authors.bradbury.id,
@@ -287,7 +287,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 				authors.davidMitchellSerious.id,
 			])
 		)
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(undefined)
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(undefined)
 
 		const diff2 = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -307,7 +307,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 
 	it('handles things being removed and added for the same value at the same time', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 
@@ -316,7 +316,7 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 		const newAuthor = Author.create({ name: 'J.R.R. Tolkein' })
 		store.put([newAuthor])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([newAuthor.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([newAuthor.id]))
 
 		const diff = authorNameIndex.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -335,10 +335,10 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, name: 'Ray Bradbury' }])
 		store.put([{ ...authors.bradbury, name: 'David Mitchell' }])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('Ray Bradbury')).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id])
 		)
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('David Mitchell')).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.bradbury.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
@@ -363,13 +363,13 @@ describe('indexes', () => {
 	it('has the same value if nothing changed', () => {
 		const authorNameIndex = store.query.index('author', 'name')
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		const lastChangedEpoch = authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.tolkein, age: 23 }])
 
-		expect(authorNameIndex.value.get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(authorNameIndex.get().get('J.R.R. Tolkein')).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		expect(lastChangedEpoch).toBe(authorNameIndex.lastChangedEpoch)
 	})
@@ -379,13 +379,13 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 	it('can query for all values of a given type', () => {
 		const bookQuery = store.query.ids('book')
 
-		expect(bookQuery.value).toEqual(
+		expect(bookQuery.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([books.cloudAtlas.id, books.farenheit.id, books.lotr.id, books.myLifeInComedy.id])
 		)
 
 		const authorQuery = store.query.ids('author')
 
-		expect(authorQuery.value).toEqual(
+		expect(authorQuery.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([
 				authors.bradbury.id,
 				authors.davidMitchellFunny.id,
@@ -398,7 +398,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 		const newBook = Book.create({ title: 'The Hobbit', authorId: newAuthor.id })
 		store.put([newAuthor, newBook])
 
-		expect(bookQuery.value).toEqual(
+		expect(bookQuery.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([
 				books.cloudAtlas.id,
 				books.farenheit.id,
@@ -408,7 +408,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			])
 		)
 
-		expect(authorQuery.value).toEqual(
+		expect(authorQuery.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([
 				authors.bradbury.id,
 				authors.davidMitchellFunny.id,
@@ -424,13 +424,13 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'J.R.R. Tolkein' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(jrr.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(jrr.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		const mitchell = store.query.ids('author', () => ({
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 	})
@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			age: { eq: 30 },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell30.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
+		expect(mitchell30.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
 	})
 
 	it('can use a reactive query', () => {
@@ -453,16 +453,16 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 		const currentAge = atom('currentAge', 30)
 
 		const mitchell30 = store.query.ids('author', () => ({
-			name: { eq: currentAuthor.value },
-			age: { eq: currentAge.value },
+			name: { eq: currentAuthor.get() },
+			age: { eq: currentAge.get() },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell30.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
+		expect(mitchell30.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = mitchell30.lastChangedEpoch
 		currentAge.set(23)
 
-		expect(mitchell30.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
+		expect(mitchell30.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
 
 		const diff = mitchell30.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -478,7 +478,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 
 		lastChangedEpoch = mitchell30.lastChangedEpoch
 
-		expect(mitchell30.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
+		expect(mitchell30.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id]))
 
 		const diff2 = mitchell30.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -498,13 +498,13 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { neq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id, authors.bradbury.id]))
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.tolkein.id, authors.bradbury.id]))
 
 		const ageNot23 = store.query.ids('author', () => ({
 			age: { neq: 23 },
 		}))
 
-		expect(ageNot23.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
+		expect(ageNot23.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id]))
 	})
 
 	it('supports records being added', () => {
@@ -512,14 +512,14 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
 		const newAuthor = Author.create({ name: 'David Mitchell' })
 		store.put([newAuthor])
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id, newAuthor.id])
 		)
 	})
@@ -529,13 +529,13 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
 		store.remove([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id])
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
 	})
 
 	it('supports records being updated', () => {
@@ -544,17 +544,17 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			age: { neq: 30 },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, age: 30 }])
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id]))
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, age: 23 }])
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellSerious.id, authors.davidMitchellFunny.id])
 		)
 	})
@@ -564,7 +564,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
@@ -573,13 +573,13 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 		const newAuthor = Author.create({ name: 'William Shakespeare' })
 		store.put([newAuthor])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 
 		store.remove([authors.tolkein.id])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 	})
@@ -589,7 +589,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
@@ -597,14 +597,14 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, age: 30 }])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 
 		// make a change that does affect the query just to check
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, name: 'steve' }])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toBeGreaterThan(lastChangedEpoch)
 	})
 
@@ -613,7 +613,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
@@ -622,7 +622,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 		store.remove([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id])
 		store.put([authors.davidMitchellFunny])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 	})
@@ -632,7 +632,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 			name: { eq: 'David Mitchell' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get()).toEqual(
 			new Set([authors.davidMitchellFunny.id, authors.davidMitchellSerious.id])
 		)
 
@@ -643,7 +643,7 @@ describe('queries for ids', () => {
 		store.put([newMitchell])
 		store.remove([newMitchell.id])
 
-		mitchell.value
+		mitchell.get()
 
 		expect(mitchell.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 	})
@@ -655,7 +655,7 @@ describe('queries for records', () => {
 	it('can query for all values of a given type', () => {
 		const allBooks = store.query.records('book')
 
-		expect(allBooks.value.sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
+		expect(allBooks.get().sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
 			[books.cloudAtlas, books.farenheit, books.lotr, books.myLifeInComedy].sort(bookComparator)
 		)
 
@@ -663,7 +663,7 @@ describe('queries for records', () => {
 
 		store.put([newBook])
 
-		expect(allBooks.value.sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
+		expect(allBooks.get().sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
 			[books.cloudAtlas, books.farenheit, books.lotr, books.myLifeInComedy, newBook].sort(
 				bookComparator
 			)
@@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ describe('queries for records', () => {
 			title: { eq: 'Farenheit 451' },
 		}))
 
-		expect(farenheit.value).toEqual([books.farenheit])
+		expect(farenheit.get()).toEqual([books.farenheit])
 	})
 
 	it('can query for multiple values', () => {
@@ -688,7 +688,7 @@ describe('queries for records', () => {
 			authorId: { eq: authors.davidMitchellFunny.id },
 		}))
 
-		expect(mitchell.value.sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
+		expect(mitchell.get().sort(bookComparator)).toEqual(
 			[books.myLifeInComedy, funnyGuide].sort(bookComparator)
 		)
 	})
@@ -696,14 +696,14 @@ describe('queries for records', () => {
 	it('supports reactive queries', () => {
 		const currentAuthor = atom('currentAuthor', authors.davidMitchellFunny.id)
 		const booksQuery = store.query.records('book', () => ({
-			authorId: { eq: currentAuthor.value },
+			authorId: { eq: currentAuthor.get() },
 		}))
 
-		expect(booksQuery.value).toEqual([books.myLifeInComedy])
+		expect(booksQuery.get()).toEqual([books.myLifeInComedy])
 
 		currentAuthor.set(authors.tolkein.id)
 
-		expect(booksQuery.value).toEqual([books.lotr])
+		expect(booksQuery.get()).toEqual([books.lotr])
 	})
 })
 
@@ -717,7 +717,7 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 	it('allows filtering history', () => {
 		const authorHistory = store.query.filterHistory('author')
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		let lastChangedEpoch = authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch
 
@@ -726,7 +726,7 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 		// updating an author should change the history
 		store.put([{ ...authors.davidMitchellFunny, age: 30 }])
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		expect(lastChangedEpoch).toBeLessThan(authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch)
 
@@ -742,7 +742,7 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 			{ ...books.lotr, title: 'The Lord of the Rings Part I: The Fellowship of the Ring' },
 		])
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		expect(authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch).toEqual(lastChangedEpoch)
 		expect(authorHistory.getDiffSince(lastChangedEpoch)).toMatchObject([])
@@ -751,25 +751,25 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 	it('should not update if changes in a window of time cancel each other out', () => {
 		const authorHistory = store.query.filterHistory('author')
 
-		const epoch = authorHistory.value
+		const epoch = authorHistory.get()
 		const newAuthor = Author.create({ name: 'Stanley Briggs' })
 
 		store.put([newAuthor])
 		store.put([{ ...newAuthor, age: 38 }])
 		store.remove([newAuthor.id])
 
-		expect(authorHistory.value).toEqual(epoch)
+		expect(authorHistory.get()).toEqual(epoch)
 
 		store.remove([authors.tolkein.id])
 		store.put([authors.tolkein])
 
-		expect(authorHistory.value).toEqual(epoch)
+		expect(authorHistory.get()).toEqual(epoch)
 	})
 
 	it('removes update entries if a thing was deleted', () => {
 		const authorHistory = store.query.filterHistory('author')
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		const lastChangedEpoch = authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch
 
@@ -788,7 +788,7 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 	it('collapses multiple updated entries into one', () => {
 		const authorHistory = store.query.filterHistory('author')
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		const lastChangedEpoch = authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch
 
@@ -805,7 +805,7 @@ describe('filtering history', () => {
 	it('collapeses an add + update entry into just an add entry', () => {
 		const authorHistory = store.query.filterHistory('author')
 
-		authorHistory.value
+		authorHistory.get()
 
 		const lastChangedEpoch = authorHistory.lastChangedEpoch
 
diff --git a/packages/store/src/lib/test/validate.test.ts b/packages/store/src/lib/test/validate.test.ts
index 062d88555..e3861ce89 100644
--- a/packages/store/src/lib/test/validate.test.ts
+++ b/packages/store/src/lib/test/validate.test.ts
@@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ describe('Store with validation', () => {
 	it('Accepts valid records and rejects invalid records', () => {
 		store.put([Author.create({ name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', id: Author.createId('tolkein') })])
 
-		expect(store.query.records('author').value).toEqual([
+		expect(store.query.records('author').get()).toEqual([
 			{ id: 'author:tolkein', typeName: 'author', name: 'J.R.R Tolkein', isPseudonym: false },
 		])
 
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ describe('Store with validation', () => {
 			])
 		}).toThrow()
 
-		expect(store.query.records('book').value).toEqual([])
+		expect(store.query.records('book').get()).toEqual([])
 	})
 })
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/canvas/TldrawSelectionForeground.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/canvas/TldrawSelectionForeground.tsx
index 4e88cf847..d25f8335c 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/canvas/TldrawSelectionForeground.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/canvas/TldrawSelectionForeground.tsx
@@ -33,8 +33,9 @@ export const TldrawSelectionForeground: TLSelectionForegroundComponent = track(
 		const bottomRightEvents = useSelectionEvents('bottom_right')
 		const bottomLeftEvents = useSelectionEvents('bottom_left')
 
-		const isDefaultCursor = !editor.isMenuOpen && editor.instanceState.cursor.type === 'default'
-		const isCoarsePointer = editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer
+		const isDefaultCursor =
+			!editor.isMenuOpen && editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type === 'default'
+		const isCoarsePointer = editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer
 
 		const shapes = editor.selectedShapes
 		const onlyShape = editor.onlySelectedShape
@@ -54,7 +55,7 @@ export const TldrawSelectionForeground: TLSelectionForegroundComponent = track(
 		bounds = bounds.clone().expandBy(expandOutlineBy).zeroFix()
 
 		const zoom = editor.zoomLevel
-		const isChangingStyle = editor.instanceState.isChangingStyle
+		const isChangingStyle = editor.getInstanceState().isChangingStyle
 
 		const width = bounds.width
 		const height = bounds.height
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeTool.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeTool.test.ts
index 669db5c43..b3a32ef5d 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeTool.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeTool.test.ts
@@ -33,7 +33,7 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 
 it('enters the arrow state', () => {
 	editor.setCurrentTool('arrow')
-	expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('arrow')
+	expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('arrow')
 	editor.expectPathToBe('root.arrow.idle')
 })
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeUtil.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeUtil.tsx
index b69c7baaf..603834a67 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeUtil.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/ArrowShapeUtil.tsx
@@ -494,7 +494,7 @@ export class ArrowShapeUtil extends ShapeUtil<TLArrowShape> {
 				'select.pointing_handle',
 				'select.dragging_handle',
 				'arrow.dragging'
-			) && !this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly
+			) && !this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly
 
 		const info = this.editor.getArrowInfo(shape)
 		const bounds = Box2d.ZeroFix(this.editor.getShapeGeometry(shape).bounds)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/toolStates/Idle.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/toolStates/Idle.ts
index fc20d8065..bf9cb524d 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/toolStates/Idle.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/arrow/toolStates/Idle.ts
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 
 	override onKeyUp: TLEventHandlers['onKeyUp'] = (info) => {
 		if (info.key === 'Enter') {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			const { onlySelectedShape } = this.editor
 			// If the only selected shape is editable, start editing it
 			if (
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 			) {
 				this.editor.setCurrentTool('select')
 				this.editor.setEditingShape(onlySelectedShape.id)
-				this.editor.root.current.value!.transition('editing_shape', {
+				this.editor.root.current.get()!.transition('editing_shape', {
 					...info,
 					target: 'shape',
 					shape: onlySelectedShape,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Idle.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Idle.ts
index 05791859b..94528966d 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Idle.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Idle.ts
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 
 	override onKeyUp: TLEventHandlers['onKeyUp'] = (info) => {
 		if (info.key === 'Enter') {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 
 			const { onlySelectedShape } = this.editor
 			// If the only selected shape is editable, start editing it
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 			) {
 				this.editor.setCurrentTool('select')
 				this.editor.setEditingShape(onlySelectedShape.id)
-				this.editor.root.current.value!.transition('editing_shape', {
+				this.editor.root.current.get()!.transition('editing_shape', {
 					...info,
 					target: 'shape',
 					shape: onlySelectedShape,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Pointing.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Pointing.ts
index a328550e7..5a1bad1f7 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Pointing.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/geo/toolStates/Pointing.ts
@@ -117,7 +117,7 @@ export class Pointing extends StateNode {
 			},
 		])
 
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked) {
 			this.parent.transition('idle', {})
 		} else {
 			this.editor.setCurrentTool('select', {})
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/line/LineShapeTool.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/line/LineShapeTool.test.ts
index 55ac42122..dfc7e26f1 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/line/LineShapeTool.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/line/LineShapeTool.test.ts
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 
 it('enters the line state', () => {
 	editor.setCurrentTool('line')
-	expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('line')
+	expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('line')
 	editor.expectPathToBe('root.line.idle')
 })
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/note/toolStates/Pointing.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/note/toolStates/Pointing.ts
index 8e87da536..09a8e6d27 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/note/toolStates/Pointing.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/note/toolStates/Pointing.ts
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ export class Pointing extends StateNode {
 
 	private complete() {
 		if (this.wasFocusedOnEnter) {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked) {
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked) {
 				this.parent.transition('idle', {})
 			} else {
 				this.editor.setEditingShape(this.shape.id)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/shared/defaultStyleDefs.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/shared/defaultStyleDefs.tsx
index d3419ce98..8a41d4730 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/shared/defaultStyleDefs.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/shared/defaultStyleDefs.tsx
@@ -137,7 +137,7 @@ const generateImage = (dpr: number, currentZoom: number, darkMode: boolean) => {
 		ctx.stroke()
 
 		canvasEl.toBlob((blob) => {
-			if (!blob || debugFlags.throwToBlob.value) {
+			if (!blob || debugFlags.throwToBlob.get()) {
 				reject()
 			} else {
 				resolve(blob)
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@ const getDefaultPatterns = () => {
 
 function usePattern() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const dpr = editor.instanceState.devicePixelRatio
+	const dpr = editor.getInstanceState().devicePixelRatio
 	const [isReady, setIsReady] = useState(false)
 	const defaultPatterns = useMemo(() => getDefaultPatterns(), [])
 	const [backgroundUrls, setBackgroundUrls] = useState<PatternDef[]>(defaultPatterns)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Idle.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Idle.ts
index 943e86c08..23fb673e8 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Idle.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Idle.ts
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 
 	override onKeyDown: TLEventHandlers['onKeyDown'] = (info) => {
 		if (info.key === 'Enter') {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return null
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return null
 			const { onlySelectedShape } = this.editor
 			// If the only selected shape is editable, start editing it
 			if (
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 			) {
 				this.editor.setCurrentTool('select')
 				this.editor.setEditingShape(onlySelectedShape.id)
-				this.editor.root.current.value!.transition('editing_shape', {
+				this.editor.root.current.get()!.transition('editing_shape', {
 					...info,
 					target: 'shape',
 					shape: onlySelectedShape,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Pointing.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Pointing.ts
index 5caa71950..e3c1317d6 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Pointing.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/shapes/text/toolStates/Pointing.ts
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ export class Pointing extends StateNode {
 
 		this.editor.setEditingShape(id)
 		this.editor.setCurrentTool('select')
-		this.editor.root.current.value?.transition('editing_shape', {})
+		this.editor.root.current.get()?.transition('editing_shape', {})
 	}
 
 	private cancel() {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/DraggingHandle.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/DraggingHandle.ts
index 81d964fa8..a1a5676ca 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/DraggingHandle.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/DraggingHandle.ts
@@ -179,7 +179,7 @@ export class DraggingHandle extends StateNode {
 		this.editor.snaps.clear()
 
 		const { onInteractionEnd } = this.info
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked && onInteractionEnd) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked && onInteractionEnd) {
 			// Return to the tool that was active before this one,
 			// but only if tool lock is turned on!
 			this.editor.setCurrentTool(onInteractionEnd, { shapeId: this.shapeId })
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Idle.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Idle.ts
index 0c06bf96f..c0d039e53 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Idle.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Idle.ts
@@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 				break
 			}
 			case 'handle': {
-				if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) break
+				if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) break
 				if (this.editor.inputs.altKey) {
 					this.parent.transition('pointing_shape', info)
 				} else {
@@ -222,7 +222,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 				break
 			}
 			case 'selection': {
-				if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) break
+				if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) break
 
 				const { onlySelectedShape } = this.editor
 
@@ -271,7 +271,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 				if (
 					shape.type !== 'video' &&
 					shape.type !== 'embed' &&
-					this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly
+					this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly
 				)
 					break
 
@@ -302,7 +302,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 				break
 			}
 			case 'handle': {
-				if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) break
+				if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) break
 				const { shape, handle } = info
 
 				const util = this.editor.getShapeUtil(shape)
@@ -475,7 +475,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 
 	handleDoubleClickOnCanvas(info: TLClickEventInfo) {
 		// Create text shape and transition to editing_shape
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return
 
 		this.editor.mark('creating text shape')
 
@@ -500,7 +500,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 		if (!shape) return
 
 		const util = this.editor.getShapeUtil(shape)
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) {
 			if (!util.canEditInReadOnly(shape)) {
 				return
 			}
@@ -534,9 +534,9 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 
 		if (!ephemeral) this.editor.mark('nudge shapes')
 
-		const { gridSize } = this.editor.documentSettings
+		const { gridSize } = this.editor.getDocumentSettings()
 
-		const step = this.editor.instanceState.isGridMode
+		const step = this.editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode
 			? shiftKey
 				? gridSize * GRID_INCREMENT
 				: gridSize
@@ -548,7 +548,7 @@ export class Idle extends StateNode {
 	}
 
 	private canInteractWithShapeInReadOnly(shape: TLShape) {
-		if (!this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return true
+		if (!this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return true
 		const util = this.editor.getShapeUtil(shape)
 		if (util.canEditInReadOnly(shape)) return true
 		return false
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingSelection.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingSelection.ts
index 55e6eaec5..93b9341d5 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingSelection.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingSelection.ts
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ export class PointingSelection extends StateNode {
 
 	override onPointerMove: TLEventHandlers['onPointerMove'] = (info) => {
 		if (this.editor.inputs.isDragging) {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return
 			this.parent.transition('translating', info)
 		}
 	}
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingShape.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingShape.ts
index 3e6b01a20..4a7961a19 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingShape.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/PointingShape.ts
@@ -151,7 +151,7 @@ export class PointingShape extends StateNode {
 										this.editor.select(selectingShape.id)
 
 										const util = this.editor.getShapeUtil(selectingShape)
-										if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) {
+										if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) {
 											if (!util.canEditInReadOnly(selectingShape)) {
 												return
 											}
@@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ export class PointingShape extends StateNode {
 
 	override onPointerMove: TLEventHandlers['onPointerMove'] = (info) => {
 		if (this.editor.inputs.isDragging) {
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isReadonly) return
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly) return
 			this.parent.transition('translating', info)
 		}
 	}
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Resizing.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Resizing.ts
index 13c3c79b1..693fb3f30 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Resizing.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Resizing.ts
@@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ export class Resizing extends StateNode {
 			return
 		}
 
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked && this.info.onInteractionEnd) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked && this.info.onInteractionEnd) {
 			this.editor.setCurrentTool(this.info.onInteractionEnd, {})
 			return
 		}
@@ -212,8 +212,8 @@ export class Resizing extends StateNode {
 			.sub(this.creationCursorOffset)
 		const originPagePoint = this.editor.inputs.originPagePoint.clone().sub(cursorHandleOffset)
 
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isGridMode && !ctrlKey) {
-			const { gridSize } = this.editor.documentSettings
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode && !ctrlKey) {
+			const { gridSize } = this.editor.getDocumentSettings()
 			currentPagePoint.snapToGrid(gridSize)
 		}
 
@@ -328,7 +328,7 @@ export class Resizing extends StateNode {
 		isFlippedY: boolean
 		rotation: number
 	}) {
-		const nextCursor = { ...this.editor.instanceState.cursor }
+		const nextCursor = { ...this.editor.getInstanceState().cursor }
 
 		switch (dragHandle) {
 			case 'top_left':
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Rotating.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Rotating.ts
index 4b139e577..053e8a1bb 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Rotating.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Rotating.ts
@@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ export class Rotating extends StateNode {
 		} else if (snapToNearestDegree) {
 			newSelectionRotation = Math.round(newSelectionRotation / EPSILON) * EPSILON
 
-			if (this.editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer) {
+			if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer) {
 				const snappedToRightAngle = snapAngle(newSelectionRotation, 4)
 				const angleToRightAngle = angleDelta(newSelectionRotation, snappedToRightAngle)
 				if (Math.abs(angleToRightAngle) < degreesToRadians(5)) {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Translating.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Translating.ts
index f975bd0e2..ec0c6450b 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Translating.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/tools/SelectTool/children/Translating.ts
@@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ export class Translating extends StateNode {
 		this.dragAndDropManager.dropShapes(this.snapshot.movingShapes)
 		this.handleEnd()
 
-		if (this.editor.instanceState.isToolLocked && this.info.onInteractionEnd) {
+		if (this.editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked && this.info.onInteractionEnd) {
 			this.editor.setCurrentTool(this.info.onInteractionEnd)
 		} else {
 			if (this.editAfterComplete) {
@@ -345,11 +345,11 @@ export function moveShapesToPoint({
 	initialSelectionPageBounds: Box2d
 	initialSelectionSnapPoints: SnapPoint[]
 }) {
-	const {
-		inputs,
-		instanceState: { isGridMode },
-		documentSettings: { gridSize },
-	} = editor
+	const { inputs } = editor
+
+	const isGridMode = editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode
+
+	const gridSize = editor.getDocumentSettings().gridSize
 
 	const delta = Vec2d.Sub(inputs.currentPagePoint, inputs.originPagePoint)
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/TldrawUi.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/TldrawUi.tsx
index e1c6b497c..be0630345 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/TldrawUi.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/TldrawUi.tsx
@@ -120,9 +120,11 @@ const TldrawUiContent = React.memo(function TldrawUI({
 	const editor = useEditor()
 	const msg = useTranslation()
 	const breakpoint = useBreakpoint()
-	const isReadonlyMode = useValue('isReadonlyMode', () => editor.instanceState.isReadonly, [editor])
-	const isFocusMode = useValue('focus', () => editor.instanceState.isFocusMode, [editor])
-	const isDebugMode = useValue('debug', () => editor.instanceState.isDebugMode, [editor])
+	const isReadonlyMode = useValue('isReadonlyMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly, [
+		editor,
+	])
+	const isFocusMode = useValue('focus', () => editor.getInstanceState().isFocusMode, [editor])
+	const isDebugMode = useValue('debug', () => editor.getInstanceState().isDebugMode, [editor])
 
 	useKeyboardShortcuts()
 	useNativeClipboardEvents()
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/ContextMenu.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/ContextMenu.tsx
index 60d2a0cab..75a1e21c1 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/ContextMenu.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/ContextMenu.tsx
@@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ export const ContextMenu = function ContextMenu({ children }: { children: any })
 				}
 			} else {
 				// Weird route: selecting locked shapes on long press
-				if (editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer) {
+				if (editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer) {
 					const {
 						selectedShapes,
 						inputs: { currentPagePoint },
@@ -74,9 +74,11 @@ export const ContextMenu = function ContextMenu({ children }: { children: any })
 		contextTLUiMenuSchema.length === 0 ||
 		(isReadonly && contextTLUiMenuSchema.every((item) => !item.readonlyOk))
 
-	const selectToolActive = useValue('isSelectToolActive', () => editor.currentToolId === 'select', [
-		editor,
-	])
+	const selectToolActive = useValue(
+		'isSelectToolActive',
+		() => editor.getCurrentToolId() === 'select',
+		[editor]
+	)
 
 	const disabled = !selectToolActive || noItemsToShow
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/DebugPanel.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/DebugPanel.tsx
index 3c0c90032..801faa1a1 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/DebugPanel.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/DebugPanel.tsx
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ export const DebugPanel = React.memo(function DebugPanel({
 
 const CurrentState = track(function CurrentState() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	return <div className="tlui-debug-panel__current-state">{editor.root.path.value}</div>
+	return <div className="tlui-debug-panel__current-state">{editor.root.path.get()}</div>
 })
 
 const ShapeCount = function ShapeCount() {
@@ -261,7 +261,7 @@ const DebugFlagToggle = track(function DebugFlagToggle({
 			label={flag.name
 				.replace(/([a-z0-9])([A-Z])/g, (m) => `${m[0]} ${m[1].toLowerCase()}`)
 				.replace(/^[a-z]/, (m) => m.toUpperCase())}
-			value={flag.value}
+			value={flag.get()}
 			onChange={(newValue) => {
 				flag.set(newValue)
 				onChange?.(newValue)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/FollowingIndicator.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/FollowingIndicator.tsx
index d197b5058..143e109de 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/FollowingIndicator.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/FollowingIndicator.tsx
@@ -2,7 +2,9 @@ import { useEditor, usePresence, useValue } from '@tldraw/editor'
 
 export function FollowingIndicator() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	const followingUserId = useValue('follow', () => editor.instanceState.followingUserId, [editor])
+	const followingUserId = useValue('follow', () => editor.getInstanceState().followingUserId, [
+		editor,
+	])
 	if (!followingUserId) return null
 	return <FollowingIndicatorInner userId={followingUserId} />
 }
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/Minimap.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/Minimap.tsx
index 52527e0a4..3e1f6e224 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/Minimap.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/Minimap.tsx
@@ -30,7 +30,9 @@ export function Minimap({ shapeFill, selectFill, viewportFill }: MinimapProps) {
 	const rPointing = React.useRef(false)
 
 	const isDarkMode = useIsDarkMode()
-	const devicePixelRatio = useComputed('dpr', () => editor.instanceState.devicePixelRatio, [editor])
+	const devicePixelRatio = useComputed('dpr', () => editor.getInstanceState().devicePixelRatio, [
+		editor,
+	])
 	const presences = React.useMemo(() => editor.store.query.records('instance_presence'), [editor])
 
 	const minimap = React.useMemo(() => new MinimapManager(editor), [editor])
@@ -135,7 +137,7 @@ export function Minimap({ shapeFill, selectFill, viewportFill }: MinimapProps) {
 				name: 'pointer_move',
 				...getPointerInfo(e),
 				point: screenPoint,
-				isPen: editor.instanceState.isPenMode,
+				isPen: editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode,
 			}
 
 			editor.dispatch(info)
@@ -164,7 +166,7 @@ export function Minimap({ shapeFill, selectFill, viewportFill }: MinimapProps) {
 	useQuickReactor(
 		'update when dpr changes',
 		() => {
-			const dpr = devicePixelRatio.value
+			const dpr = devicePixelRatio.get()
 			minimap.setDpr(dpr)
 
 			const canvas = rCanvas.current as HTMLCanvasElement
@@ -191,7 +193,7 @@ export function Minimap({ shapeFill, selectFill, viewportFill }: MinimapProps) {
 				currentPageBounds: commonBoundsOfAllShapesOnCurrentPage,
 			} = editor
 
-			const _dpr = devicePixelRatio.value // dereference
+			const _dpr = devicePixelRatio.get() // dereference
 
 			minimap.contentPageBounds = commonBoundsOfAllShapesOnCurrentPage
 				? Box2d.Expand(commonBoundsOfAllShapesOnCurrentPage, viewportPageBounds)
@@ -224,7 +226,7 @@ export function Minimap({ shapeFill, selectFill, viewportFill }: MinimapProps) {
 			})
 
 			minimap.pageBounds = allShapeBounds
-			minimap.collaborators = presences.value
+			minimap.collaborators = presences.get()
 			minimap.render()
 		},
 		[editor, minimap]
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/MinimapManager.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/MinimapManager.ts
index 0e68da30f..a7a299113 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/MinimapManager.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/NavigationZone/MinimapManager.ts
@@ -255,7 +255,7 @@ export class MinimapManager {
 
 		// Brush
 		{
-			const { brush } = editor.instanceState
+			const { brush } = editor.getInstanceState()
 			if (brush) {
 				const { x, y, w, h } = brush
 				ctx.beginPath()
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PageMenu/PageMenu.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PageMenu/PageMenu.tsx
index d01b08e9c..9832e8040 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PageMenu/PageMenu.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PageMenu/PageMenu.tsx
@@ -46,9 +46,11 @@ export const PageMenu = function PageMenu() {
 		[editor]
 	)
 
-	const isCoarsePointer = useValue('isCoarsePointer', () => editor.instanceState.isCoarsePointer, [
-		editor,
-	])
+	const isCoarsePointer = useValue(
+		'isCoarsePointer',
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().isCoarsePointer,
+		[editor]
+	)
 
 	// The component has an "editing state" that may be toggled to expose additional controls
 	const [isEditing, setIsEditing] = useState(false)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PenModeToggle.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PenModeToggle.tsx
index 91c6ca319..e4c591112 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PenModeToggle.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/PenModeToggle.tsx
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ import { Button } from './primitives/Button'
 export const ExitPenMode = track(function ExitPenMode() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
 
-	const isPenMode = editor.instanceState.isPenMode
+	const isPenMode = editor.getInstanceState().isPenMode
 
 	const actions = useActions()
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/StopFollowing.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/StopFollowing.tsx
index 9349c1c3d..8580f3629 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/StopFollowing.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/StopFollowing.tsx
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@ export const StopFollowing = track(function ExitPenMode() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
 	const actions = useActions()
 
-	if (!editor.instanceState.followingUserId) {
+	if (!editor.getInstanceState().followingUserId) {
 		return null
 	}
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/ToggleToolLockedButton.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/ToggleToolLockedButton.tsx
index 2f923179b..3781360f7 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/ToggleToolLockedButton.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/ToggleToolLockedButton.tsx
@@ -24,7 +24,9 @@ export function ToggleToolLockedButton({ activeToolId }: ToggleToolLockedButtonP
 	const breakpoint = useBreakpoint()
 	const msg = useTranslation()
 
-	const isToolLocked = useValue('is tool locked', () => editor.instanceState.isToolLocked, [editor])
+	const isToolLocked = useValue('is tool locked', () => editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked, [
+		editor,
+	])
 
 	if (!activeToolId || NOT_LOCKABLE_TOOLS.includes(activeToolId)) return null
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/Toolbar.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/Toolbar.tsx
index 51052abad..985223c0b 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/Toolbar.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/components/Toolbar/Toolbar.tsx
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ export const Toolbar = memo(function Toolbar() {
 	const toolbarItems = useToolbarSchema()
 	const laserTool = toolbarItems.find((item) => item.toolItem.id === 'laser')
 
-	const activeToolId = useValue('current tool id', () => editor.currentToolId, [editor])
+	const activeToolId = useValue('current tool id', () => editor.getCurrentToolId(), [editor])
 
 	const geoState = useValue('geo', () => editor.sharedStyles.getAsKnownValue(GeoShapeGeoStyle), [
 		editor,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useActions.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useActions.tsx
index d154b68aa..b8147a448 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useActions.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useActions.tsx
@@ -278,12 +278,12 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 				readonlyOk: true,
 				kbd: 'z',
 				onSelect(source) {
-					if (editor.root.current.value?.id === 'zoom') return
+					if (editor.root.current.get()?.id === 'zoom') return
 
 					trackEvent('zoom-tool', { source })
 					if (!(editor.inputs.shiftKey || editor.inputs.ctrlKey)) {
-						const currentTool = editor.root.current.value
-						if (currentTool && currentTool.current.value?.id === 'idle') {
+						const currentTool = editor.root.current.get()
+						if (currentTool && currentTool.current.get()?.id === 'idle') {
 							editor.setCurrentTool('zoom', { onInteractionEnd: currentTool.id, maskAs: 'zoom' })
 						}
 					}
@@ -402,7 +402,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 					trackEvent('duplicate-shapes', { source })
 					const ids = editor.selectedShapeIds
 					const commonBounds = Box2d.Common(compact(ids.map((id) => editor.getShapePageBounds(id))))
-					const offset = editor.instanceState.canMoveCamera
+					const offset = editor.getInstanceState().canMoveCamera
 						? {
 								x: commonBounds.width + 10,
 								y: 0,
@@ -955,7 +955,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 					trackEvent('toggle-transparent', { source })
 					editor.updateInstanceState(
 						{
-							exportBackground: !editor.instanceState.exportBackground,
+							exportBackground: !editor.getInstanceState().exportBackground,
 						},
 						{ ephemeral: true }
 					)
@@ -970,7 +970,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 				kbd: 'q',
 				onSelect(source) {
 					trackEvent('toggle-tool-lock', { source })
-					editor.updateInstanceState({ isToolLocked: !editor.instanceState.isToolLocked })
+					editor.updateInstanceState({ isToolLocked: !editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked })
 				},
 				checkbox: true,
 			},
@@ -1006,7 +1006,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 							trackEvent('toggle-focus-mode', { source })
 							clearDialogs()
 							clearToasts()
-							editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocusMode: !editor.instanceState.isFocusMode })
+							editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocusMode: !editor.getInstanceState().isFocusMode })
 						})
 					})
 				},
@@ -1019,7 +1019,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 				kbd: "$'",
 				onSelect(source) {
 					trackEvent('toggle-grid-mode', { source })
-					editor.updateInstanceState({ isGridMode: !editor.instanceState.isGridMode })
+					editor.updateInstanceState({ isGridMode: !editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode })
 				},
 				checkbox: true,
 			},
@@ -1031,7 +1031,7 @@ export function ActionsProvider({ overrides, children }: ActionsProviderProps) {
 				onSelect(source) {
 					trackEvent('toggle-debug-mode', { source })
 					editor.updateInstanceState({
-						isDebugMode: !editor.instanceState.isDebugMode,
+						isDebugMode: !editor.getInstanceState().isDebugMode,
 					})
 				},
 				checkbox: true,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanRedo.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanRedo.ts
index e667febc0..27b5f2aac 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanRedo.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanRedo.ts
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@ import { useEditor, useValue } from '@tldraw/editor'
 /** @public */
 export function useCanRedo() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	return useValue('useCanRedo', () => editor.canRedo, [editor])
+	return useValue('useCanRedo', () => editor.getCanRedo(), [editor])
 }
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanUndo.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanUndo.ts
index 01f400505..53163e625 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanUndo.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCanUndo.ts
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@ import { useEditor, useValue } from '@tldraw/editor'
 /** @public */
 export function useCanUndo() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	return useValue('useCanUndo', () => editor.canUndo, [editor])
+	return useValue('useCanUndo', () => editor.getCanUndo(), [editor])
 }
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useClipboardEvents.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useClipboardEvents.ts
index 3c1a017e9..f029a2557 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useClipboardEvents.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useClipboardEvents.ts
@@ -625,7 +625,9 @@ export function useNativeClipboardEvents() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
 	const trackEvent = useUiEvents()
 
-	const appIsFocused = useValue('editor.isFocused', () => editor.instanceState.isFocused, [editor])
+	const appIsFocused = useValue('editor.isFocused', () => editor.getInstanceState().isFocused, [
+		editor,
+	])
 
 	useEffect(() => {
 		if (!appIsFocused) return
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useContextMenuSchema.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useContextMenuSchema.tsx
index b1ceb85d6..950cb9b27 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useContextMenuSchema.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useContextMenuSchema.tsx
@@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ export const TLUiContextMenuSchemaProvider = track(function TLUiContextMenuSchem
 	)
 	const isTransparentBg = useValue(
 		'isTransparentBg',
-		() => editor.instanceState.exportBackground,
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().exportBackground,
 		[]
 	)
 	const allowGroup = useAllowGroup()
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCopyAs.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCopyAs.ts
index 2b5c4515c..448083326 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCopyAs.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useCopyAs.ts
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ export function useCopyAs() {
 async function getExportSvgElement(editor: Editor, ids: TLShapeId[]) {
 	const svg = await editor.getSvg(ids, {
 		scale: 1,
-		background: editor.instanceState.exportBackground,
+		background: editor.getInstanceState().exportBackground,
 	})
 
 	if (!svg) throw new Error('Could not construct SVG.')
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useExportAs.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useExportAs.ts
index fa688292f..6c527c4ce 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useExportAs.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useExportAs.ts
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ export function useExportAs() {
 
 			const svg = await editor.getSvg(ids, {
 				scale: 1,
-				background: editor.instanceState.exportBackground,
+				background: editor.getInstanceState().exportBackground,
 			})
 
 			if (!svg) throw new Error('Could not construct SVG.')
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useKeyboardShortcuts.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useKeyboardShortcuts.ts
index 33d76da02..00af9c657 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useKeyboardShortcuts.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useKeyboardShortcuts.ts
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ export function useKeyboardShortcuts() {
 	const isReadonly = useReadonly()
 	const actions = useActions()
 	const tools = useTools()
-	const isFocused = useValue('is focused', () => editor.instanceState.isFocused, [editor])
+	const isFocused = useValue('is focused', () => editor.getInstanceState().isFocused, [editor])
 
 	useEffect(() => {
 		if (!isFocused) return
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ export function useKeyboardShortcuts() {
 		}
 
 		for (const tool of Object.values(tools)) {
-			if (!tool.kbd || (!tool.readonlyOk && editor.instanceState.isReadonly)) {
+			if (!tool.kbd || (!tool.readonlyOk && editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly)) {
 				continue
 			}
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuIsOpen.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuIsOpen.ts
index e2cbb14b2..fe8b5cfec 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuIsOpen.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuIsOpen.ts
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ export function useMenuIsOpen(id: string, cb?: (isOpen: boolean) => void) {
 					editor.addOpenMenu(id)
 				} else {
 					editor.updateInstanceState({
-						openMenus: editor.openMenus.filter((m) => !m.startsWith(id)),
+						openMenus: editor.getOpenMenus().filter((m) => !m.startsWith(id)),
 					})
 				}
 
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ export function useMenuIsOpen(id: string, cb?: (isOpen: boolean) => void) {
 		[editor, id, cb]
 	)
 
-	const isOpen = useValue('is menu open', () => editor.openMenus.includes(id), [editor, id])
+	const isOpen = useValue('is menu open', () => editor.getOpenMenus().includes(id), [editor, id])
 
 	useEffect(() => {
 		// When the effect runs, if the menu is open then
@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ export function useMenuIsOpen(id: string, cb?: (isOpen: boolean) => void) {
 				editor.deleteOpenMenu(id)
 
 				// Close menu and all submenus when the parent is closed
-				editor.openMenus.forEach((menuId) => {
+				editor.getOpenMenus().forEach((menuId) => {
 					if (menuId.startsWith(id)) {
 						trackEvent('close-menu', { source: 'unknown', id })
 						editor.deleteOpenMenu(menuId)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuSchema.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuSchema.tsx
index 945c67c39..b5002c7cd 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuSchema.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useMenuSchema.tsx
@@ -51,14 +51,14 @@ export function TLUiMenuSchemaProvider({ overrides, children }: TLUiMenuSchemaPr
 
 	const isDarkMode = useValue('isDarkMode', () => editor.user.isDarkMode, [editor])
 	const animationSpeed = useValue('animationSpeed', () => editor.user.animationSpeed, [editor])
-	const isGridMode = useValue('isGridMode', () => editor.instanceState.isGridMode, [editor])
+	const isGridMode = useValue('isGridMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode, [editor])
 	const isSnapMode = useValue('isSnapMode', () => editor.user.isSnapMode, [editor])
-	const isToolLock = useValue('isToolLock', () => editor.instanceState.isToolLocked, [editor])
-	const isFocusMode = useValue('isFocusMode', () => editor.instanceState.isFocusMode, [editor])
-	const isDebugMode = useValue('isDebugMode', () => editor.instanceState.isDebugMode, [editor])
+	const isToolLock = useValue('isToolLock', () => editor.getInstanceState().isToolLocked, [editor])
+	const isFocusMode = useValue('isFocusMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isFocusMode, [editor])
+	const isDebugMode = useValue('isDebugMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isDebugMode, [editor])
 	const exportBackground = useValue(
 		'exportBackground',
-		() => editor.instanceState.exportBackground,
+		() => editor.getInstanceState().exportBackground,
 		[editor]
 	)
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useReadonly.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useReadonly.ts
index f6aeaf798..80b4e3a3e 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useReadonly.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useReadonly.ts
@@ -3,5 +3,5 @@ import { useEditor, useValue } from '@tldraw/editor'
 /** @public */
 export function useReadonly() {
 	const editor = useEditor()
-	return useValue('isReadonlyMode', () => editor.instanceState.isReadonly, [editor])
+	return useValue('isReadonlyMode', () => editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly, [editor])
 }
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useRevelantStyles.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useRevelantStyles.ts
index 4e4c856a3..26aa1ae15 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useRevelantStyles.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useRevelantStyles.ts
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ export function useRelevantStyles(): {
 		'getRelevantStyles',
 		() => {
 			const styles = new SharedStyleMap(editor.sharedStyles)
-			const hasShape = editor.selectedShapeIds.length > 0 || !!editor.root.current.value?.shapeType
+			const hasShape = editor.selectedShapeIds.length > 0 || !!editor.root.current.get()?.shapeType
 
 			if (styles.size === 0 && editor.isIn('select') && editor.selectedShapeIds.length === 0) {
 				for (const style of selectToolStyles) {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useTools.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useTools.tsx
index 990b5d6d9..0d0759d57 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useTools.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/ui/hooks/useTools.tsx
@@ -105,7 +105,7 @@ export function ToolsProvider({ overrides, children }: TLUiToolsProviderProps) {
 						editor.updateInstanceState(
 							{
 								stylesForNextShape: {
-									...editor.instanceState.stylesForNextShape,
+									...editor.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape,
 									[GeoShapeGeoStyle.id]: id,
 								},
 							},
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/export.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/export.ts
index e923ef631..c9ce8078c 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/export.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/export.ts
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@ export async function getSvgAsImage(
 	const blob = await new Promise<Blob | null>((resolve) =>
 		canvas.toBlob(
 			(blob) => {
-				if (!blob || debugFlags.throwToBlob.value) {
+				if (!blob || debugFlags.throwToBlob.get()) {
 					resolve(null)
 				}
 				resolve(blob)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/file.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/file.ts
index f8927c537..c43a33a37 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/file.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/lib/utils/file.ts
@@ -279,7 +279,7 @@ export async function parseAndLoadDocument(
 	// this file before they'll get their camera etc.
 	// restored. we could change this in the future.
 	transact(() => {
-		const isFocused = editor.instanceState.isFocused
+		const isFocused = editor.getInstanceState().isFocused
 		editor.store.clear()
 		const [shapes, nonShapes] = partition(
 			parseFileResult.value.allRecords(),
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/Editor.test.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/test/Editor.test.tsx
index 6b7bd71ed..e455d7b14 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/Editor.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/Editor.test.tsx
@@ -151,7 +151,7 @@ it('Does not create an undo stack item when first clicking on an empty canvas',
 	editor = new TestEditor()
 	editor.pointerMove(50, 50)
 	editor.click(0, 0)
-	expect(editor.canUndo).toBe(false)
+	expect(editor.getCanUndo()).toBe(false)
 })
 
 describe('Editor.sharedOpacity', () => {
@@ -244,10 +244,10 @@ describe('Editor.setOpacity', () => {
 	it('stores opacity on opacityForNextShape', () => {
 		editor.setOpacityForSelectedShapes(0.5)
 		editor.setOpacityForNextShapes(0.5)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.opacityForNextShape).toBe(0.5)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().opacityForNextShape).toBe(0.5)
 		editor.setOpacityForSelectedShapes(0.6)
 		editor.setOpacityForNextShapes(0.6)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.opacityForNextShape).toBe(0.6)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().opacityForNextShape).toBe(0.6)
 	})
 })
 
@@ -293,66 +293,66 @@ describe('Editor.TickManager', () => {
 describe("App's default tool", () => {
 	it('Is select for regular app', () => {
 		editor = new TestEditor()
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 	})
 	it('Is hand for readonly mode', () => {
 		editor = new TestEditor()
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isReadonly: true })
 		editor.setCurrentTool('hand')
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('hand')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('hand')
 	})
 })
 
 describe('currentToolId', () => {
 	it('is select by default', () => {
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 	})
 	it('is set to the last used tool', () => {
 		editor.setCurrentTool('draw')
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('draw')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('draw')
 
 		editor.setCurrentTool('geo')
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('geo')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('geo')
 	})
 	it('stays the selected tool during shape creation interactions that technically use the select tool', () => {
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 
 		editor.setCurrentTool('geo')
 		editor.pointerDown(0, 0)
 		editor.pointerMove(100, 100)
 
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('geo')
-		expect(editor.root.path.value).toBe('root.select.resizing')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('geo')
+		expect(editor.root.path.get()).toBe('root.select.resizing')
 	})
 
 	it('reverts back to select if we finish the interaction', () => {
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 
 		editor.setCurrentTool('geo')
 		editor.pointerDown(0, 0)
 		editor.pointerMove(100, 100)
 
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('geo')
-		expect(editor.root.path.value).toBe('root.select.resizing')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('geo')
+		expect(editor.root.path.get()).toBe('root.select.resizing')
 
 		editor.pointerUp(100, 100)
 
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 	})
 
 	it('stays on the selected tool if we cancel the interaction', () => {
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('select')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('select')
 
 		editor.setCurrentTool('geo')
 		editor.pointerDown(0, 0)
 		editor.pointerMove(100, 100)
 
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('geo')
-		expect(editor.root.path.value).toBe('root.select.resizing')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('geo')
+		expect(editor.root.path.get()).toBe('root.select.resizing')
 
 		editor.cancel()
 
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('geo')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('geo')
 	})
 })
 
@@ -363,7 +363,7 @@ describe('isFocused', () => {
 
 		const updateFocus = debounce(() => {
 			const { activeElement } = document
-			const { isFocused: wasFocused } = editor.instanceState
+			const { isFocused: wasFocused } = editor.getInstanceState()
 			const isFocused =
 				document.hasFocus() && (container === activeElement || container.contains(activeElement))
 
@@ -385,48 +385,48 @@ describe('isFocused', () => {
 	})
 
 	it('is false by default', () => {
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 
 	it('becomes true when you call .focus()', () => {
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: true })
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 	})
 
 	it('becomes false when you call .blur()', () => {
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: true })
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: false })
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 
 	it('remains false when you call .blur()', () => {
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: false })
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 
 	it('becomes true when the container div receives a focus event', () => {
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 
 		editor.elm.focus()
 
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 	})
 
 	it('becomes false when the container div receives a blur event', () => {
 		editor.elm.focus()
 
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 
 		editor.elm.blur()
 
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 
 	it.skip('becomes true when a child of the app container div receives a focusin event', () => {
@@ -438,13 +438,13 @@ describe('isFocused', () => {
 		const child = document.createElement('div')
 		editor.elm.appendChild(child)
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 		child.dispatchEvent(new FocusEvent('focusin', { bubbles: true }))
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 		child.dispatchEvent(new FocusEvent('focusout', { bubbles: true }))
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 
 	it('becomes false when a child of the app container div receives a focusout event', () => {
@@ -453,12 +453,12 @@ describe('isFocused', () => {
 
 		editor.updateInstanceState({ isFocused: true })
 
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(true)
 
 		child.dispatchEvent(new FocusEvent('focusout', { bubbles: true }))
 
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isFocused).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isFocused).toBe(false)
 	})
 })
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/EraserTool.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/EraserTool.test.ts
index 7f803a297..78041efa8 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/EraserTool.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/EraserTool.test.ts
@@ -298,14 +298,14 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		editor.pointerDown(-100, -100) // outside of any shapes
 
 		editor.expectPathToBe('root.eraser.pointing')
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(0)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(0)
 
 		editor.pointerMove(50, 50) // inside of box1
 
 		editor.expectPathToBe('root.eraser.erasing')
 
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([ids.box1])
 
@@ -331,7 +331,7 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		editor.pointerDown(-100, -100) // outside of any shapes
 		editor.pointerMove(50, 50) // inside of box1
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([ids.box1])
 		editor.cancel()
 		editor.expectPathToBe('root.eraser.idle')
@@ -346,7 +346,7 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		editor.pointerDown(275, 275) // in between box2 AND box3, so over of the new group
 		editor.pointerMove(280, 280) // still outside of the new group
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([])
 		editor.pointerMove(0, 0)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([ids.box1])
@@ -361,7 +361,7 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		editor.pointerDown(325, 25) // directly on frame1, not its children
 		editor.pointerMove(350, 375) // still in the frame, passing through box3
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([ids.box3])
 		editor.pointerUp()
 		expect(editor.getShape(ids.frame1)).toBeDefined()
@@ -375,7 +375,7 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([])
 		editor.pointerMove(425, 500) // Through the masked part of box3
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([])
 		editor.pointerUp()
 		expect(editor.getShape(ids.box3)).toBeDefined()
@@ -383,7 +383,7 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 		editor.pointerMove(375, 0)
 		editor.pointerDown() // Above the not-masked part of box3
 		editor.pointerMove(375, 500) // Through the masked part of box3
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.erasingShapeIds).toEqual([ids.box3])
 		editor.pointerUp()
 		expect(editor.getShape(ids.box3)).not.toBeDefined()
@@ -400,16 +400,16 @@ describe('When clicking and dragging', () => {
 	it('Starts a scribble on pointer down, updates it on pointer move, stops it on exit', () => {
 		editor.setCurrentTool('eraser')
 		editor.pointerDown(-100, -100)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(0)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(0)
 		editor.pointerMove(50, 50)
 		jest.advanceTimersByTime(16)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 		editor.pointerMove(50, 50)
 		editor.pointerMove(51, 50)
 		editor.pointerMove(52, 50)
 		editor.pointerMove(53, 50)
 		editor.pointerUp()
-		expect(editor.instanceState.scribbles.length).toBe(1)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().scribbles.length).toBe(1)
 	})
 })
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/SelectTool.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/SelectTool.test.ts
index d8cf7acc9..2422c4088 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/SelectTool.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/SelectTool.test.ts
@@ -424,7 +424,7 @@ describe('When in readonly mode', () => {
 	it('Begins editing embed when double clicked', () => {
 		expect(editor.editingShapeId).toBe(null)
 		expect(editor.selectedShapeIds.length).toBe(0)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isReadonly).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly).toBe(true)
 
 		const shape = editor.getShape(ids.embed1)
 		editor.doubleClick(100, 100, { target: 'shape', shape })
@@ -434,7 +434,7 @@ describe('When in readonly mode', () => {
 	it('Begins editing embed when pressing Enter on a selected embed', () => {
 		expect(editor.editingShapeId).toBe(null)
 		expect(editor.selectedShapeIds.length).toBe(0)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isReadonly).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isReadonly).toBe(true)
 
 		editor.setSelectedShapes([ids.embed1])
 		expect(editor.selectedShapeIds.length).toBe(1)
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLSessionStateSnapshot.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLSessionStateSnapshot.test.ts
index b472e3683..647720b40 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLSessionStateSnapshot.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLSessionStateSnapshot.test.ts
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ describe('createSessionStateSnapshotSignal', () => {
 	it('creates a signal', () => {
 		const $snapshot = createSessionStateSnapshotSignal(editor.store)
 
-		expect($snapshot.value).toMatchObject({
+		expect($snapshot.get()).toMatchObject({
 			exportBackground: true,
 			isDebugMode: false,
 			isFocusMode: false,
@@ -45,8 +45,8 @@ describe('createSessionStateSnapshotSignal', () => {
 		let numPages = 0
 
 		react('', () => {
-			isGridMode = $snapshot.value?.isGridMode ?? false
-			numPages = $snapshot.value?.pageStates.length ?? 0
+			isGridMode = $snapshot.get()?.isGridMode ?? false
+			numPages = $snapshot.get()?.pageStates.length ?? 0
 		})
 
 		expect(isGridMode).toBe(false)
@@ -67,10 +67,10 @@ describe('createSessionStateSnapshotSignal', () => {
 
 describe(loadSessionStateSnapshotIntoStore, () => {
 	it('loads a snapshot into the store', () => {
-		let snapshot = createSessionStateSnapshotSignal(editor.store).value
+		let snapshot = createSessionStateSnapshotSignal(editor.store).get()
 		if (!snapshot) throw new Error('snapshot is null')
 
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isGridMode).toBe(false)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode).toBe(false)
 		expect(editor.camera.x).toBe(0)
 		expect(editor.camera.y).toBe(0)
 
@@ -82,7 +82,7 @@ describe(loadSessionStateSnapshotIntoStore, () => {
 
 		loadSessionStateSnapshotIntoStore(editor.store, snapshot)
 
-		expect(editor.instanceState.isGridMode).toBe(true)
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode).toBe(true)
 		expect(editor.camera.x).toBe(1)
 		expect(editor.camera.y).toBe(2)
 	})
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLUserPreferences.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLUserPreferences.test.ts
index 22642310c..f1f871b9f 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLUserPreferences.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TLUserPreferences.test.ts
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ describe('TLUserPreferences', () => {
 		expect(editor.user.isDarkMode).toBe(true)
 
 		userPreferences.set({
-			...userPreferences.value,
+			...userPreferences.get(),
 			isDarkMode: false,
 		})
 
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ describe('TLUserPreferences', () => {
 		editor.user.updateUserPreferences({ isDarkMode: true })
 
 		expect(editor.user.isDarkMode).toBe(true)
-		expect(userPreferences.value.isDarkMode).toBe(true)
+		expect(userPreferences.get().isDarkMode).toBe(true)
 	})
 
 	it('can have null values and it will use defaults', () => {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TestEditor.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TestEditor.ts
index d2415540a..95d76ed6a 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TestEditor.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TestEditor.ts
@@ -189,12 +189,12 @@ export class TestEditor extends Editor {
 	}
 
 	expectToBeIn = (path: string) => {
-		expect(this.root.current.value!.path.value).toBe(path)
+		expect(this.root.current.get()!.path.get()).toBe(path)
 		return this
 	}
 
 	expectPathToBe = (path: string) => {
-		expect(this.root.path.value).toBe(path)
+		expect(this.root.path.get()).toBe(path)
 		return this
 	}
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TldrawEditor.test.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TldrawEditor.test.tsx
index b3c811f3d..62f1c1e4e 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/TldrawEditor.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/TldrawEditor.test.tsx
@@ -264,7 +264,7 @@ describe('<TldrawEditor />', () => {
 		await act(async () => editor.setCurrentTool('eraser'))
 
 		// Is the editor's current tool correct?
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('eraser')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('eraser')
 	})
 })
 
@@ -387,6 +387,6 @@ describe('Custom shapes', () => {
 		await act(async () => editor.setCurrentTool('card'))
 
 		// Is the editor's current tool correct?
-		expect(editor.currentToolId).toBe('card')
+		expect(editor.getCurrentToolId()).toBe('card')
 	})
 })
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/ZoomTool.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/ZoomTool.test.ts
index 4e6c2165f..b51217925 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/ZoomTool.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/ZoomTool.test.ts
@@ -149,7 +149,7 @@ describe('TLSelectTool.Zooming', () => {
 		editor.expectToBeIn('zoom.idle')
 		editor.pointerDown(newBoundsX, newBoundsY)
 		editor.pointerMove(newBoundsX + newBoundsWidth, newBoundsY + newBoundsHeight)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.zoomBrush).toMatchObject({
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().zoomBrush).toMatchObject({
 			x: newBoundsX,
 			y: newBoundsY,
 			w: newBoundsWidth,
@@ -186,7 +186,7 @@ describe('TLSelectTool.Zooming', () => {
 		editor.keyDown('Alt')
 		editor.pointerDown(newBoundsX, newBoundsY)
 		editor.pointerMove(newBoundsX + newBoundsWidth, newBoundsY + newBoundsHeight)
-		expect(editor.instanceState.zoomBrush).toMatchObject({
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().zoomBrush).toMatchObject({
 			x: newBoundsX,
 			y: newBoundsY,
 			w: newBoundsWidth,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/createShapes.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/createShapes.test.ts
index 13d72b46e..b4b0a69a2 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/createShapes.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/createShapes.test.ts
@@ -88,13 +88,13 @@ it('Parents shapes to the current page if the parent is not found', () => {
 })
 
 it('Creates shapes with the current style', () => {
-	expect(editor.instanceState.stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe(undefined)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe(undefined)
 	editor.createShapes([{ id: ids.box1, type: 'geo' }])
 	expect(editor.getShape<TLGeoShape>(ids.box1)!.props.color).toEqual('black')
 
 	editor.setStyleForSelectedShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'red')
 	editor.setStyleForNextShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'red')
-	expect(editor.instanceState.stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('red')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('red')
 	editor.createShapes([{ id: ids.box2, type: 'geo' }])
 	expect(editor.getShape<TLGeoShape>(ids.box2)!.props.color).toEqual('red')
 })
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/deleteShapes.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/deleteShapes.test.ts
index 5aa082583..52fea0f3c 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/deleteShapes.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/deleteShapes.test.ts
@@ -92,20 +92,20 @@ describe('When deleting arrows', () => {
 		editor.select(ids.arrow1)
 		editor.mark('before deleting')
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box1]).not.toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box1]).not.toBeUndefined()
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box2]).not.toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box2]).not.toBeUndefined()
 
 		editor.deleteShapes(editor.selectedShapeIds) // delete the selected shapes
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box1]).toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box1]).toBeUndefined()
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box2]).toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box2]).toBeUndefined()
 
 		editor.undo()
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box1]).not.toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box1]).not.toBeUndefined()
 		// @ts-expect-error
-		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.value[ids.box2]).not.toBeUndefined()
+		expect(editor._arrowBindingsIndex.get()[ids.box2]).not.toBeUndefined()
 	})
 })
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/nudge.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/nudge.test.ts
index d5c6beebf..34917a41a 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/nudge.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/nudge.test.ts
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 })
 
 function nudgeAndGet(ids: TLShapeId[], key: string, shiftKey: boolean) {
-	const step = editor.instanceState.isGridMode ? (shiftKey ? 50 : 10) : shiftKey ? 10 : 1
+	const step = editor.getInstanceState().isGridMode ? (shiftKey ? 50 : 10) : shiftKey ? 10 : 1
 	switch (key) {
 		case 'ArrowLeft': {
 			editor.mark('nudge')
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/setBrush.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/setBrush.test.ts
index cbb5d5fda..5ef752db6 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/setBrush.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/setBrush.test.ts
@@ -7,11 +7,11 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 })
 
 it('Sets the brush', () => {
-	expect(editor.instanceState.brush).toEqual(null)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().brush).toEqual(null)
 
 	editor.updateInstanceState({ brush: { x: 0, y: 0, w: 100, h: 100 } })
 
-	expect(editor.instanceState.brush).toMatchObject({
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().brush).toMatchObject({
 		x: 0,
 		y: 0,
 		w: 100,
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ it('Sets the brush', () => {
 
 	editor.undo()
 
-	expect(editor.instanceState.brush).toEqual({
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().brush).toEqual({
 		x: 0,
 		y: 0,
 		w: 100,
@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ it('Sets the brush', () => {
 
 	editor.redo()
 
-	expect(editor.instanceState.brush).toEqual({
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().brush).toEqual({
 		x: 0,
 		y: 0,
 		w: 100,
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/updateViewportPageBounds.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/updateViewportPageBounds.test.ts
index 60914d98f..0fb71cd07 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/updateViewportPageBounds.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/commands/updateViewportPageBounds.test.ts
@@ -115,9 +115,9 @@ describe('When center is true', () => {
 })
 
 test("if nothing changes it doesn't update the store", () => {
-	const originalScreenBounds = editor.instanceState.screenBounds
+	const originalScreenBounds = editor.getInstanceState().screenBounds
 	editor.setScreenBounds(originalScreenBounds, true)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.screenBounds).toBe(originalScreenBounds)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().screenBounds).toBe(originalScreenBounds)
 	editor.setScreenBounds({ ...originalScreenBounds }, true)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.screenBounds).toBe(originalScreenBounds)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().screenBounds).toBe(originalScreenBounds)
 })
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/groups.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/groups.test.ts
index a5b215767..acd6d302a 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/groups.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/groups.test.ts
@@ -1046,7 +1046,7 @@ describe('the select tool', () => {
 		expect(editor.getShapesAtPoint({ x: -305, y: -5 })).toMatchObject([])
 		editor.pointerDown(-305, -5, { target: 'canvas' }).pointerMove(35, 9, ids.boxB)
 
-		expect(editor.root.path.value).toBe(`root.select.brushing`)
+		expect(editor.root.path.get()).toBe(`root.select.brushing`)
 		expect(editor.selectedShapeIds.includes(ids.boxA)).toBe(true)
 		expect(editor.selectedShapeIds.includes(ids.boxB)).toBe(true)
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/resizing.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/resizing.test.ts
index 2df2d5dad..72a1e0347 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/resizing.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/resizing.test.ts
@@ -3832,16 +3832,16 @@ it('uses the cross cursor when create resizing', () => {
 	editor.pointerDown(0, 0)
 	editor.pointerMove(100, 100)
 	editor.expectToBeIn('select.resizing')
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('cross')
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('cross')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
 
 	editor.pointerMove(120, 120)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('cross')
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('cross')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
 
 	editor.pointerMove(-120, -120)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('cross')
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('cross')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.rotation).toBe(0)
 })
 
 describe('Resizing text from the right edge', () => {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/select.test.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/test/select.test.tsx
index dd7aa26b6..83119ecb4 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/select.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/select.test.tsx
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ describe(SelectTool, () => {
 
 			editor.pointerDown(150, 150).pointerUp()
 			expect(editor.currentPageState.editingShapeId).toBe(null)
-			expect(editor.root.path.value).toEqual('root.select.idle')
+			expect(editor.root.path.get()).toEqual('root.select.idle')
 		})
 	})
 	it('does not allow pressing undo to end up in the editing state', () => {
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ describe(SelectTool, () => {
 
 		editor.pointerDown(150, 150).pointerUp()
 		expect(editor.currentPageState.editingShapeId).toBe(null)
-		expect(editor.root.path.value).toEqual('root.select.idle')
+		expect(editor.root.path.get()).toEqual('root.select.idle')
 
 		editor.undo()
 
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/spacebarPanning.test.ts b/packages/tldraw/src/test/spacebarPanning.test.ts
index 7e61a2679..b2f76cbf7 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/spacebarPanning.test.ts
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/spacebarPanning.test.ts
@@ -15,18 +15,18 @@ beforeEach(() => {
 })
 
 it('Sets cursor and state correctly', () => {
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('default')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('default')
 	expect(editor.inputs.isPanning).toBe(false)
 	editor.keyDown(' ')
 	expect(editor.inputs.isPanning).toBe(true)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('grab')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('grab')
 	editor.pointerDown(0, 0)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('grabbing')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('grabbing')
 	editor.pointerUp(0, 0)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('grab')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('grab')
 	editor.keyUp(' ')
 	expect(editor.inputs.isPanning).toBe(false)
-	expect(editor.instanceState.cursor.type).toBe('default')
+	expect(editor.getInstanceState().cursor.type).toBe('default')
 })
 
 it('When holding spacebar and clicking and dragging, it pans the camera', () => {
diff --git a/packages/tldraw/src/test/styles2.test.tsx b/packages/tldraw/src/test/styles2.test.tsx
index 275ec39a3..0a0d0a90e 100644
--- a/packages/tldraw/src/test/styles2.test.tsx
+++ b/packages/tldraw/src/test/styles2.test.tsx
@@ -191,9 +191,9 @@ describe('Editor.setStyle', () => {
 	it('stores styles on stylesForNextShape', () => {
 		editor.setStyleForSelectedShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'red')
 		editor.setStyleForNextShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'red')
-		expect(editor.instanceState.stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('red')
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('red')
 		editor.setStyleForSelectedShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'green')
 		editor.setStyleForNextShapes(DefaultColorStyle, 'green')
-		expect(editor.instanceState.stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('green')
+		expect(editor.getInstanceState().stylesForNextShape[DefaultColorStyle.id]).toBe('green')
 	})
 })
diff --git a/packages/tlschema/src/TLStore.ts b/packages/tlschema/src/TLStore.ts
index fd9421a2f..cd7f64bd5 100644
--- a/packages/tlschema/src/TLStore.ts
+++ b/packages/tlschema/src/TLStore.ts
@@ -102,7 +102,7 @@ export function createIntegrityChecker(store: TLStore): () => void {
 		}
 
 		// make sure there is at least one page
-		const pageIds = $pageIds.value
+		const pageIds = $pageIds.get()
 		if (pageIds.size === 0) {
 			store.put(getDefaultPages())
 			return ensureStoreIsUsable()
diff --git a/packages/tlschema/src/createPresenceStateDerivation.ts b/packages/tlschema/src/createPresenceStateDerivation.ts
index 6c20a18c6..9c5e0b0c0 100644
--- a/packages/tlschema/src/createPresenceStateDerivation.ts
+++ b/packages/tlschema/src/createPresenceStateDerivation.ts
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ export const createPresenceStateDerivation =
 			const pageState = store.get(InstancePageStateRecordType.createId(instance?.currentPageId))
 			const camera = store.get(CameraRecordType.createId(instance?.currentPageId))
 			const pointer = store.get(TLPOINTER_ID)
-			const user = $user.value
+			const user = $user.get()
 			if (!pageState || !instance || !camera || !pointer || !user) {
 				return null
 			}